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And if the man was God then explain 1 Corinthians 10:1-5

The tell me was the man Jesus Christ the Rock? or was the Rock, God ( who's name is Jesus Christ)?

2006-09-13 16:44:23 · 19 answers · asked by Brother Marland H 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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•During his preaching, Jesus had never called himself as God or Son-God. Now, look upon those people who consider Jesus as God or Son-God. They are, baselessly, blaming even those people who were present at the spot and knew that Jesus was not God or son-god. In other words, the people with the belief that Jesus is God or Son-god; are far more enemies of Jesus who tried to crucify him.

•The people who say that Jesus is God or Son-God or in his guise, the Lord descended upon earth because of God’s love for humanity. They are, baselessly, blaming Jesus and the Lord of Jesus, the both.
According to Jesus, God, the Holy One; is the Saviour of the Whole mankind. God is capable (be God glorified as God is) to relive off every infliction. None of the human beings is saviour beside God. Jesus, himself is also, not a saviour at all. The people who have chosen him as their saviour__ they have denied the Holy One___ who alone is the saviour of Jesus and whole mankind and the act of choosing Jesus as saviour__ is equal to hate the Holy One___ as it is clearly written in the old Testament:-

“I am the Lord your God. Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heavens or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it. Because I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me, on their descendants, down to third and fourth generation.”
(Exodus 20:1-5)

Now, ponder over the point that whosoever says that Jesus is God___ Holy Spirit is God___ Mary is God; has he not made an idol beside the One God? While nothing is there in the earth and heavens which could be considered in terms of the One God.

Beware please! A father is a father__ a mother is a mother___ and a son is a son__ and they all are the creatures of God. They cannot be considered as God___ as god is their Creator__ and nothing is like the Lord.

Creatures of God are God’s Creatures they can never be considered as God or as the parts of God. Same is the case of Jesus who is a creature and, as such, can not be considered as God or a part of the Creator or the son of Creator.

•Jesus is not a Saviour. He is not capable, even, to save himself from his enemies. How he can be considered “All-Able” to save everyone on the earth. It is the Lord alone__ Who is the All-Able to save every creature of the universe including the mankind__ as the Lord is already saving__ each of them__ without any desolation and defect.

Jesus was born after Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses and the numerous other Prophets (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them). If he were the Son-God, then, all of the foregoing Prophets, must have been the believers of Trinity. But the case is not like that at all. None of them was the believer of Trinity, rather, none of them, had, even, heard about the name of Trinity, in their times. Hence, Trinity is nothing else but an invented and artificial concept which has no existence, even, during the time of Jesus. It is, therefore, a rootless concept from all accounts.

Prior to Jesus, the Lord had created Eve, without mother__ and Adam, without mother and father, the both. Afterwards, the Lord created Jesus without father. So the creation of Jesus, without father, is the third instance of the Lord’s all-encompassing creativity___ which is free from all the channels or systems of the birth. Instead, all the channels or systems of the birth are subservient to the all-encompassing and unique creativity of the Lord.
The Lord is, therefore, Holy and the Lord must be believed in, as Holy. To ascribe a son unto the Lord__ is a direct assault on the Lord’s Holiness__ which is an unpardonable crime.

since Adam to Noah__ Noah to Abraham__ Abraham to David, David to Moses__ Moses to Jesus and Jesus to Muhammad (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them) all the Prophets were slaves or servants of the Lord. And, in their servant-n-master or slave-n-lord based relationship__ all of them had__ all the qualities of servants & slaves definitely. That is why that all of them stood as servants & slaves of the Lord__ throughout their lives__ and obeyed their Lord in the most positive terms.

In the lines:-

“Honour the Lord, you descendants of Jacob!
Worship the Lord, you people of Israel!”

Jesus is advising the descendants of Jacob and the people of Israel to honour and worship the Holy One. The same thing has been advised in Quran after Torah by the Almighty God to whole mankind. It means that God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon each of them) is One, the Holy One. Who alone, is to be honoured and worshipped ___ by the people of Jesus__ by the people__ of Muhammad__ and by the whole mankind.
Like Jesus, Mary and Moses every Prophet and every righteous person has praised__ honoured__ and worshipped the Lord, alone. So, the followers of all the Scriptures, should naturally praise__ honour__and worship the Lord alone as that__ and only that__ is the true faith and all of us should keep our Lord alone as our saviour with us here and hereafter.
Torah, Psalms, Gospel and Quran, all the Scriptures are saying that God is One, the Holy One. So whosoever does not believe in One God, he is definitely denying all the Scriptures. Such a person can not be considered as a believer at all.

No Prophet or a righteous-man has ever dared to say that he, himself, should be honoured like God or worshipped like God. Satan, of course, had certainly said to Jesus to worship him in place of God but Jesus had responded in the following way:-

“Go away Satan! The Scripture says: Worship the Lord you God and serve only the Lord.”
(Matthew 4:10)

In the same way, Jesus has responded in his prayer on the cross while uttering the following lines of the Verse No.23:-

“Praise the Lord, you servants of the Lord!
Honour the Lord, you descendants of Jacob!
Worship the Lord, you people of Israel!”

No doubt, it is a matter of simple common-sense that when God is One__ the Lord is One__ the saviour is one__ the Holy and Only One__ then, how his slaves or servants__ can be held as worthy of the honour & service__ which is meant for the Holy One alone. But alas! The people are honouring and serving the slaves and servants__ just like the Lord. Rather, they have chosen them as God & the Lord__ in place of the Holy One. And__ Christians are the pioneers of such ideas. They have straightaway declared Jesus as God & Lord and the Saviour. Rather, they hold Jesus as the sole sovereign of the Day of Judgement, instead of the Lord, the Almighty God, the Holy One.

2006-09-13 19:52:08 · answer #1 · answered by ibn adam 4 · 2 1

Jesus was God incarnated in the flesh. Realize that in the beginning was the Word. the Word was with God and the Word was God.Jesus the Christ is the Word. the Word became man to show man and tell man how to be.Jesus (God in the second person) also was the perfect sacrificial lamb to satisfy the letter of the law given by God to moses for man kind. You are a carnal being(flesh) with all those fleshly desires. You are also a spiritual being that can receive direction and inspiration form the Holy Spirit of God,(heart and beliefs) you have a soul(your Mind,seance's, memories, decisions and actions. that can be influenced through the Word(Jesus, bible, beliefs game plan. you however must have the influence of the Holy Spirit to understand the Word.You only get the Holy spirit when you personally accept Jesus Christ(Word ) as your savior.

The rock he talking about is each and every person who truly believes and has a true personell relationship with him (Jesus) not the once a week, for a couple of hours "CHRISTRIAN"

2006-09-13 17:19:59 · answer #2 · answered by Mark B 1 · 1 0

The Rock refers to Jesus in spirit form as he was at that time. He did not take on the form of The Man Jesus untill he came into the world at Bethleham....

" In The begining was the Word and the Word was God. The same was in the begining with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made"
(John 1:1-4)

The Rock is The Word who is Jesus The Christ who is God.

2006-09-13 16:54:27 · answer #3 · answered by IdahoMike 5 · 0 1

In 1 Corinthians 10: 1-5 Paul was saying it was Christ that was with the Israelites all through the desert thus asserting in a different way that Christ has been here all along and is God.

2006-09-13 16:51:12 · answer #4 · answered by jusme 5 · 0 0

You have absolutely confused me. Thanks for that, I came here to learn.

After reading 1 Corinthians 10: 1-5.....I had more questions than answers. If our fathers were under a cloud, and were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. I'm already reading an indication of people under cloudy skies and in salty water. But then if Christ was a spiritual rock he could somehow clear the skies?? As if to say that through Christ's spirit they could see more clearly? Then it goes on to say that God was not well pleased with most of them for they laid low in the wilderness?

I don't know but, obviously Jesus and God are two separate beings, yet also one in mind and spirit, which almost infers that Moses' commandments were not yet clear until Jesus came along to shed more light on the truth of what the commandments were meant to say?

If I'm even remotely close to interpreting this correctly....then my theory could back-up what Jesus meant in Mathew 5:17. "Do not think that I came to abolish the law or the prophets: I did not come to abolish but to fulfill".

2006-09-13 17:24:39 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

Contrary to most beliefs; God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three different people, like you and me. what makes them a like is their purpose. In essence they are three people on one team, simple. Frankly the whole trinity thing is confusing ever time I think about it. as far as the "Rock". it is used several times in the scriptures as a metaphor for foundations. A Rock is a better foundation than sand. Christ and his teaching are a foundation to get closer to him. This may not be a popular answer but it's what I believe hope it helps.

2006-09-13 16:54:25 · answer #6 · answered by Coool 4 · 0 0

From the official Catechism of the Catholic Church:

II. THE INCARNATION

461 Taking up St. John's expression, "The Word became flesh",82 the Church calls "Incarnation" the fact that the Son of God assumed a human nature in order to accomplish our salvation in it. In a hymn cited by St. Paul, the Church sings the mystery of the Incarnation:


Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.83

462 The Letter to the Hebrews refers to the same mystery:


Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. Then I said, Lo, I have come to do your will, O God."84

463 Belief in the true Incarnation of the Son of God is the distinctive sign of Christian faith: "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God."85 Such is the joyous conviction of the Church from her beginning whenever she sings "the mystery of our religion": "He was manifested in the flesh."86

III. TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN

464 The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man.

During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it.

2006-09-13 18:55:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You people simply follow a book and kill and fight each other based on what it says. Jesus is a made up concept and not a real person. None of it is real, books like the bible display man made concepts that have no real base in reality. That's why Christians tortured and killed millions of innocent people in the inquisition. Nobody cares about your fake concept of God anymore. Jesus is and never was real.

2015-07-12 14:00:17 · answer #8 · answered by John 1 · 0 0

sturdy question. The Bible would desire to learn so as which you recognize this of course. The doctrine of the Trinity -- that God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each and each the two and endlessly the single actual God -- is basically puzzling to appreciate, and yet is the very commencing place of Christian reality. in spite of the indisputable fact that skeptics would ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it extremely is nonetheless someone-friendly doctrine of Scripture to boot as profoundly sensible in the two familiar journey and contained in the scientific information of the cosmos. the two previous and New Testaments prepare the team spirit and the Trinity of the Godhead. the thought there is in basic terms one God, who created all issues, is many times emphasised in such Scriptures as Isaiah 40 5:18: for for that reason saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; ...i'm the Lord; and there is none else." a clean testomony occasion is James 2:19: "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest properly; the devils even have confidence, and tremble." the three persons of the Godhead are, on the comparable time, observed in such Scriptures as Isaiah 40 8:sixteen: "I even have not spoken in secret from the start; From the time that it substitute into, there am I; and now our lord god, and his Spirit, hath despatched me." The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been despatched the two via our lord god (it extremely is, the father) and via His Spirit (it extremely is, the Holy Spirit). the recent testomony doctrine of the Trinity is sparkling in certainly one of these verse as John 15:26, the place the Lord Jesus mentioned: "yet whilst the Comforter is come whom i'll deliver unto you from the father, He shall testify of me." Then there is the baptismal formulation: "baptizing them contained in the call of the father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19). One call (God) -- yet 3 names!

2016-09-30 22:37:12 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Jesus Christ is God made flesh. Part of the God in three persons, father son and holy ghost.

2006-09-13 16:46:11 · answer #10 · answered by thetyranyofevilmen 2 · 0 2

Jesus is God Incarnate.

2006-09-13 16:59:01 · answer #11 · answered by Tinkerbelle 6 · 0 0

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