He created the planet, the people, the rules.
With omniscience (the ability to see all events, past present and future), He knows exactly what each person will do, when they will do it, and why they do it.
He even wrote an official, perfect handbook.
If God wanted 100% success, it is in His power.
Yet God created Hell for the failures. Revelations is full of prohecy about how many people will fail, and why.
With all this power in His hands, how does God excuse His inability to achieve 100% success with humanity? Free will?
Is free will God's excuse for not getting everyone into Heaven?
Did God grant free will so as to deliberately create failures? For God knows each choice we make before we make it, right? So he knows who is going to make the wrong choices and who will fail to get to heaven before these people are born. And he allows them to be born anyway, knowing they'll go to Hell.
So God needs people to go to hell so as to fulfill his prophecy in Revelation?
2006-09-13
11:05:02
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Doesn't this mean God is depending upon people going to Hell to fulfill his prophecy?
People going to hell is part of God's plan?
How does this reconcile with a belief that "God is Love"? when some of the people he's manufacturing are destined for hell?
2006-09-13
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God did not create free will to create failures but rather to allow us the chance to choose and learn from our choices. I believe that this process goes on and on until all are success stories. That is how a loving parent would do it...at least I would. I would not excuse bad behavior but I would structure learning opportunities so that my child would learn on their own to make good decisions. All learning is experiential on some level, don't you think?
2006-09-14 06:38:45
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answered by Anonymous
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To start off with take your blinders off and look at the big picture God has never failed and never will he created you with free will ie an example you may relate to which would you rather have a child who is programmed or forced to tell you he loves you or one who does so from the heart with warmth and sincerity and then there is the bigger issue that apparently you are ignorant of that took place 3500 yrs ago if you have read the Book of Job it tells of a huge " court" case going on in the heaven satan accuse god of being a bad ruller and that he could do better Now God could have destroyed satan right then and ther but would that have setteled the issue in front of the angels NO it would have said who is more powerfull so he let satan prove his case in the many centuries and millenia mankind has trie one type of government after another and all have failed look at the mess the world is in it is proving satan wrong and that under divine rullership all would be better off and just so you know hell is just the common grave of mankind and we all take our sides on the issue by how we conduct ourselves whether we are for satan r our loving Creator who will shortly put and end to this trial and do away with satan and his followers a little thing the Bible likes to call Aarmageddon on what side will you be then? Gorbalizer
2006-09-13 11:33:30
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answered by gorbalizer 5
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God sees our lives like we see the Bible, we read about all of the patriarchs in the old testament, and about the decisions that they made, yet we have no effect on those decisions. Those decisions whether good or bad make an effect on the future. God knew we would sin against Him in the beginning, He foresaw it, but that is why History has played out the way it has, so that He could make a covenant with His children, send His son to be sacrificed for them, and allow enough time so that everyone has the chance to hear His word. He wants us to come to Him, how can there be any hateful remark against that?
2006-09-13 11:15:53
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answered by malsvb6 3
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God cannot fail, his plan is perfection. We have free will/choice to choose whether we will love him and honor him or not. We also were given the additional option of accepting his son Jesus as a sacrifice for our sins. Went he sent his son to earth it was his way of experiencing what we experience, and allowing himself to see how we are tempted. Realizing that man did not have the power to overcome sin on his own, Jesus (the perfect unblemished lamb) allowed himself to be sacrificed for man's sins. When the angel Satan was cast out of heaven, he took with him other angels that held allegiance to him. Satan fancies himself as better than God, and so he tempts people to dishonor God and choose him instead. Sure, God could have made all of us happy little drones that were pre programmed to love him, but he gave us a choice instead.
2006-09-13 11:20:49
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answered by Anonymous
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God does not have "inability" to achieve 100% success. God has ability to achieve anything He chooses. He chose to give us free will, it is OUR choice to fail. Striving is what strengthens us. Do you think He would grant us eternal Paradise with no testing and trial? If He didn't want us to strive, he might just as well have made a world full of robots who obey His every wish. Does a parent do a service to their child if they continue to do everything for the child, never letting the child experience trial & error? No.
2006-09-13 11:21:04
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answered by Squirrley Temple 7
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i'm Mormon, and function been my total life. whilst i became little, i did no longer question something, I basically went to church with my family contributors and that i depended on my mothers and dads' ideals and their thoughts. As a youthful teen, I went via some dark circumstances. i individually questioned if God became there, if he even cared. i became obstinate and did no longer hear to every physique or enable them to purpose to help me. i became a lone wolf. Now, as I mature, i be responsive to that the Gospel is actual. I incredibly have taken the time to truly locate out for myself what's nice and what's actual. i do no longer, by utilising any skill, have all the solutions, and that i nonetheless have a protracted preparation on the thank you to flow, yet i be responsive to that Christ is my Savior. i be responsive to that i will pray for help at any time, in anyplace. God loves each of his toddlers, and that i be responsive to this for a fact. i've got confidence, as you reported, that Christ does love anybody, regardless of their movements. we are his brothers and sisters. He has a skill to love us even whilst we make blunders. With that being reported, there's a distinction between loving the guy, and loving what they do. i've got confidence that homosexuality is faulty. yet, to choose people who % to stay their lives in that way, is faulty. Hating people who're gay isn't ok. God does not hate every physique. there will be effects for movements chosen, despite if for good or for undesirable. we don't be able to declare who is going to heaven or hell. in straightforward terms God can confirm that. enable he who's desirable throw the 1st stone. i be responsive to i'm no longer desirable so i'm no longer goint to show arms at what anybody else is doing incorrect.
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answered by winstanley 4
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God didn't invent hell for failures he aloud satin to roam the earth and who follows the way of the "world" chooser's to go to hell,those people anit failures either they just choose their own path, anyways I hate to waste my time on answering these kind of questions I'm not God,I don't know His reasons for what He dose,or why. People have their own opinions on many things, to each his own.
2006-09-13 11:17:27
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answered by sunistao 3
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We know nothing about the omniscience of the One True God.
We know nothing about hell and heaven.
We know nothing about success and faillure.
We know nothing about the worlds of God.
We know nothing about our own selves.
We know nothing about the innumerable blessings of God.
The proof is that we keep on quarelling with each other like the blind observers of the elephant!
So, let us not make blasphemous statements against God, that would only darkens our minds.
We better realize our ignorance, start reading the Holy Books and learn how to thankfully live as rational beings.
2006-09-13 11:21:40
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answered by Anonymous
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"With omniscience (the ability to see all events, past present and future), He knows exactly what each person will do, when they will do it, and why they do it."
Including himself! He knows, and has always known, every single thing he'd ever do or not do, so he can't have free will himself. He can never change his mind about anything. Why would he give to humans something he can never attasin himself?
2006-09-13 11:15:03
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answered by Anonymous
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First. God is genocidal and on lsd.
Second. God create evil him self for his own purpose
Isiah 45:7
3d. As long as god can see future ( which means for him our future already exists) than using, non using free will does not matter. In our future for GOD he already reward us or punished so no matter what we do we can't change it.
Many christians now moving to open view so they won't sounds as ridiculis as catholics or radicals. Which means GOD knows past and present but can't know the future.
If god knows future than he him self has no free will ( sounds ridiculis but true).
Anyway what do you expect from ppl who were created from dust? ( Geneses 2:13)
Since when dust can think? And revelation just an advertising for vacuum cleaning system. Final rejoyice with god will be when he will get all that christian dust out of this planet.
Peace and pardon my spelling.
2006-09-13 11:13:06
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