Can someone explain to me SIMPLY some concepts...?

Question

Without quoting and giving me endless Bible verses, can you explain to me the concept of

God, Jesus and the Holy spirit being one? Isn't Jesus the son of God and the Holy Spirit... well I have no idea what that is

Jesus dying for our sins..... if we sin, we go to hell still, so what was the point?

Answer 1

Think of it as a body analogy.

You are a person. You have a physical body, but your body is not all that you are (mind, thoughts, emotions, etc.) You also have breath (ki/chi, prana, life energy) but that is also not all that you are.

God is everything. Part of that was manifested and incarnated into a body (Jesus). Part is present as the connection between people and as the divine energy that flows through prayer (Holy Spirit). But it is all also part of the All that is God.

As far as the "dying for sins" aspect, let's try a different analogy.

You are in the Amazon jungle. And you know that on the other side of the jungle is a village. But there is no path to get there, and very few (if any) that have tried to make it have succeeded. One man takes it upon himself to create and mark a path, that others can follow, even knowing that he will die along the way.

According to Christian scripture, Jesus created the path to heaven. His sacrifice created the option of following that path. Absent that sacrifice, there was no path, and no option to follow it. So, even if some people don't choose to follow it, the fact that the path now exists means that some people can choose it.

Answer 2

There isn't a simple way of stating that mainly because there is no direct mention of this Holy Trinity in the Bible. God is like the engine in the car of Life, you can function, for a time, without certain other parts that make up the car but without the engine the car simply will not run. Jesus is the steering wheel, it is the main guiding mechanism that leads around the turns of Life and has enough control to keep you from aimlessness. The Holy Spirit is the shell of the car, it protects you from the elements, it is what tries to keep you safe from the impact of wayward accidents. All three are essential to one central objective, keeping the occupant inside the car as safe as they can be, and all must be working together if that is to be accomplished. That is as simple as I could think of.

Answer 3

Well, I'm not a Christian, so this might not be worth anything to you, but here goes. Personally, I have no problem with the trinity concept. Imagine Jesus as God's body, God as the Mind, and the holy Spirit as the Soul. They are al seperate concepts, but a single entity. My personal feeling is that we are ALL a part of that entity, but I think the idea applies just as well to those who believe in Christianity.

As for the whole Jesus dying for our sins thing, I don't buy it at all, but according to Christian theology, you don't go to hell for sinning, but rather for rejecting Jesus Christ.

Good luck on your path! Bright Blessings!

Answer 4

Think about yourself. You have a body (physical), a soul (your mind), and a spirit (that which will live eternally). 3 distinct functions, 1 person. It is not a perfect match, but gives a glimpse of how 1 person can have 3 distinct parts.

If you call upon the name of Jesus to be your Lord and Savior, you will not be judged for your sins. They will be covered by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.

For a good book to read that will answer many of these questions in greater detail, try reading "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis.

Answer 5

The trinity.

The Christian God is simultaneously one and three. Broken down, God is the core being. The being that lies outside of our reality in Heaven (not the sky, but a place beyond our concept of the universe).

Jesus is like an avatar. If God were to enter our reality in his/its full glory, it is likely that we wouldn't even be able to wrap our minds around the concept enough to even perceive God. Kinda like on Yahoo! Answers. You come here and you ask and answer, but only a part of yourself is here in cyberspace whilke the rest of you is back in your body at home. God is in both places at once. Jesus is like the Mortal form of God. Without the mortal form we may never have been able to interact with God.
There are those however, that do not believe that Jesus is God, but for the purpose of answering your question we have to assume that you believe, or are trying to believe that he is.

The Holy Spirit is the part of God that is within everything. It is the presence of God everywhere, at all times, within everything and everyone. It is the hardest for me to explain, but the simplest concept of the three.


The whole concept of Jesus dying for sin is that mortals no longer need to perform sacrifices and such. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. That doesn't make you immune to the consequences of sin. Apparently, you still go to Hell if you sin and are not forgiven. The idea is that because of Jesus sacrifice, you need only be truly repentant and ask God to forgive you, and God forgets about sin. If you ask and are truly repentant, then you will go to Heaven according to the doctrine as far as I understand it.

That's as accurate as I can be at the moment, and I hope it helps.

--Steele

Answer 6

According to that faith, Jesus and God were the same "spirit".
Think of it as a song playing on two players at the same time. This song "holy spirit" was playing in two places at once - in heaven as god and on earth as a man (Jesus)
The "holy spirit" was in both Beings.

Also, according to that faith, the penalty for sin was paid for you - by Jesus - when he died for you. All you have to do is accept that sacrifice to avoid being damned to hell forever.

Answer 7

The trinity is a man-made lie which has NO BASIS in the Bible itself. Jesus is the son of God and holy spirit is God's active force which he uses to create, reveal things to men, etc. Jesus replaced Adam as our perfect father by coming to earth as a man (he was a spirit creature in heaven). He had to die perfect and present the value of that perfect life back to his father in heaven in order to bridge the gap which Adam's sin created. A firey burning hell that sinners go to and remain forever is also just a man-made doctrine based on the misinterpretation of some scriptures. Jesus' sacrifice gave us back a choice of life or death--when we inherited the sin from Adam, we could not be reconsiled to God again without the sacrifice. E-mail me if you have any further questions. I will be happy to help.

Answer 8

Personally, I don't believe in the one and three trinity. I believe that the Godhead consist of three distinct seperate beings, that are one in purpose.

Jesus didn't just die for our sins. He paid the price for them. Ultimately we could not pay that price and still go to Heaven. Jesus lived a perfect, sinless, life and as God's Son had the ability to make this sacrifice. We can choose to accept Jesus, follow his commandments and repent when we sin.

Answer 9

Your first question about God, Jesus and Holy Spirit being one... I think of it like this: First, God is more complicated than we can fully understand, luckily we don't have to. God the creator came to earth as God the son, in the flesh, Jesus. He had to come in the flesh for practical purposes of course, to talk to us, to develop relationships with his people. After his ministry on earth he sacrificed his earthly body, and died on the cross, only to rise again, acknowledging this by contact with multiple people and crowds afterwards. The reason he rose again, was to prove to the world that he could conqure death and give hope to those who believed him. He had to die because the earth and all of it's kingdoms belong to Lucifer, Satan, the Devil, whatever you want to call him. (This happened when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, and from that point on Satan reined on the earth) Jesus's death was a payment to Satan from God for our souls. If he had not made that payment, then each of us would have to make that payment with our own lives, because we are sinners, all sinners belong to Satan and are not able to be in God's presence, unless we are covered by Jesus's payment. Even so, we do not have to go to hell, if we claim the gift that Jesus provides us with his death. The Holy Spirit is God's spirit. Kind of like saying you are a person and a spiritual being. Our spirit and our flesh are two different things, and while today they reside together, one day they will be two separate entities. Our bodies will die and our spirit will live on. God's spirit lives in believers and was with Jesus, because Jesus was God in the flesh!

Answer 10

From what I get from the bible...God is a spirit / force/ energy and God planned for Jesus (who was God in the flesh) to come in order to clarify much of the misconceptions early humans had of God.
People thought of God as a punisher, hatred for unholy, and so forth, but God is really loving and forgiving. Jesus came to allow people the ability to come to God. If you were living a sinful life and doing what the OT said not to do in an evolving world, it would be hard to come to God on the level God wants one to come to him.
God wanted us to know he is forgiving and wants us to live with him for eternity. He doesn't want us to live in fear, full of burdens, and sorrow, so he sent Jesus to be an example, a token of his love for ALL...mainly those in which the guilt of sin was weighing their heart down. No one is sinless and no one can be.
God wants us to learn from our mistakes, reach out to him for guidance, and to feel forgiven.
We don't go to hell for sin, if that was the case we are all going to hell.
God, Jesus, Holy spirit is all ONE in the same. We are all one as well, and that is why Jesus taught to forgive unconditionaly, love everyone, and not place burdens on others, but help others, by doing so we are loving God. We are part of a system and what we do affects others. God doesn't send certain sinners to hell, we send our self to hell by not believing we have been forgiven by God.
I know a lot of Christians probably won't agree and i don't care. There is no greater or lesser sinner in God's eye, so what makes some believe hell is not for them but the other? How is having an abortion or being gay any more of a sin than a christian who turns their back on a gay or woman seeking an abortion and weighs them down with guilt and judgement? A sin is a sin, and God forgives them all. Jesus died in our place, so that when we die we are able to be in god's presence.

I may not have answered your question because I honestly don't really understand the trinity, but I do believe it has something to do with the fact we are all part of God, and we are all able to seek forgiveness from God in order to be freed from our guilt and given the chance to be united as one with God.