cps problems?

Question

Really does not matter wether your children are thin/or not: have a clean/messy home: work/home/retired: cps gets a report on you they will/and do take your children. They are even interviewing kids at school, without you/or a lawyer present. They are even handing out their business cards to kids in school. They do-not go by the book. They will make promises, tell you things will work out. Then turn around and lie on/about you. Laws need to be changed, or it will be the KIDS that suffer in the end.

Answer 1

go to childprotectionreform at yahoo groups. do not hesitate! i was lucky--they didn't take my child, however, after a judge dimissed everything they threw at me, the cps worker still ruled that there was founded child abuse! ridiculous. i am now appealing. do your own web search, but to start, read the web pages i have pasted for you. it is amazing to me, shocking, that they will deliberately lie, twist the truth, and manipulate.

Here are just a few exerpts from all the research that you can find on the internet:

"parents are usually assumed guilty, until they can prove themselves innocent and therefore the children are most of the time removed first and then questions asked later. Sadly enough, once the gears begin to turn, child protective workers will never go back to the judge and admit they were wrong and that what they stated in an affidavit was a lie or a half-truth. At this point the worker is locked in, where they must continue to lie and dig dirt on mom and dad just to cover themselves and make their case, even though they know it is false...."
"VOCAL has heard of numerous cases where people have been hot-lined ten, twenty, and even more times. DFS (Child Protective Services) often calls their own hotline, either so they can show cause to initiate court involvement, so they can remove the children, or to make more allegations to perpetuate a case when it looks like the court could be sending the children home. Many times court involvement is initiated, not because there is real cause, but because the case workers have no authority to order the family around when they seem less than cooperative. Many times we have seen where the agency fabricated false allegations, solely to meet their own agenda. The real issue
many times is power and control and not really abuse. DFS in making more allegations also causes parents to break mentally and emotionally, so that they will give up."

from http://vocalofmo.org/Fall.pdf

"When child savers claim that cases are wrongly labeled unfounded because abuse couldn't be proven, they know full well that no proof is required. In most cases, "substantiation" means only that an untrained, inexperienced caseworker checked a box on a form. It does not mean a court made a determination, it does not mean that the accused even got to make his or her case. And it does not mean that the accusation was proved beyond a reasonable doubt or even, in most states, by a preponderance of the evidence, the lowest standard any court will accept. It means only that the worker thought there was "some credible evidence" of guilt, even if there was more evidence of innocence. "

from: America's children are victimized http://med4um.com/about15712.html

CPS VICTIM’S BEGINNERS MANUAL

These are things you should have done BEFORE CPS invaded your life. The chances are, though, that until they knocked on the door, it had never crossed your mind to have to protect yourself and your kids from them. Sadly, this is WHY they have such success at destroying families and stealing kids.. the
parents have no clue of the dangers. You are working to protect your kids from every danger you are aware of, and the most dangerous of all threats is one that you are paying to support every time you cash a paycheck. Think you have nothing
to hide? You don’t have to.. they will be happy to make some up FOR you..Based on my personal experiences, these are the steps I deem absolutely necessary to self defense in this situation:
If you have not already NEVER EVER let them into your home without seeing a SIGNED Search warrant. Yes the refusal pisses them off, and they MAY just have the cop with them force you out of the way. MAKE them. Don’t make it easy for them to violate your rights. Make them force you and get every word and
step on video if possible, and at the very least on audio. If possible have someone there as a witness in addition. If you can simply refuse to answer the door,
CALL a neighbor, a friend, family, someone to come to witness for you.
Develop a relationship with advocates and other parents in your area with whom you can exchange help.
If, as in most of our cases, you have already been invaded, and
violated, then the following is where you begin.. ..

"Know that if they have EVER done an investigation on your family, even if it was closed as unfounded, they WILL be BACK. It would be best to move, and get your kids outta their reach. Social workers REGULARLY make anonymous calls to hotlines FOR one another, to get cases opened up. Some of them have recently been offered a substantial bonus for opening
at least six new investigations a month. No kidding, a CASH BONUS! If you are in their computer, you are a target. This includes if you get food stamps, Medicaid, etc. Nothing is FREE. There are some strings attached to Welfare that are beyond comprehension. If you have no choice, make it as short as you can, and learn from these family rights sites to protect yourself from the almost certain victimization that will be brought to you as a result."

from The CPS Victim's Beginners Manual: http://www.coloradofrai.org/RESOURCES/CPS_NewbieList.doc

other sites, reports below.

good luck
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Answer 2

Honey, I work with CPS as a social worker and I can tell you this is the furthest thing from the truth. We do not just walk into someone's home on a phone call and take their children. Nor do we make empty promises we cannot keep. We go to great lengths to get the family to comply before we remove any children. If you are angered and upset, and have lost your children, I am more than sure it was for just cause. Thin children are often malnourished. Do you cook them dinner? Do they get breakfast? How about lunch? And what are they eating at these meals? If your house is messy, that is considered neglect honey, especially if there is nothing that prevents you from cleaning it. Is it so hard to pick up after yourself? To wash the dishes once in a while? How about do a load of laundry so the children have clean clothes to wear? And if the children are being interviewed at school, it's because you have been coaching them and they want to conduct an honest evaluation without influence. I'm sorry if this is harsh, but you aren't the one who is suffering here. It's your children. They are the ones forced to live in squaler or be neglected, they are the one being ripped from the comfort of their homes and you have the audacity to sit on here and rip on the system? Get off your lazy butt and clean your house. Get a job if you are capable, take a parenting class, put together a game plan, so that if God willing, your children are returned, you can be a better parent. Sitting on here venting isn't helping your cause any. The laws in this country protecting children are just fine, it's the parents that need some changing!

Answer 3

"Honey, I work with CPS as a social worker and I can tell you this is the furthest thing from the truth."-- Hollynfai...

If you work as a social worker for CPS then all I have to say is may God Forgive You!!! Because I Will NOT!!! and you have probably forgotten how to tell the truth Long ago!...

I am the web master for
NIGHTMARE IN AMERICA
http://www.nightmareinamerica.com

A Child Protective Services protest / information Website
With hundreds of links and thousands of stories about the atrocities committed by Child Protective Services against innocent children and their families...

I'm certain the stories from the House Committee on ways and means about the FBI arresting CPS workers for trafficking in children are all fake...


sincerely: [e-mail]

Answer 4

First of all HOLLY- you are a social worker for CPS? Do you have any children of your own or married? Divorced? I am not getting nasty, but I deal with a Special Ed 24/7 child-I have unnounced visits from CPS, FEC,SCAN, and DFC. I never know when they are going to pop in-this latest case worker almost got shot one night visiting our house at 10:30 p.m. at night. I am fighting a big problem here-I take care of a 72 year old woman(mother-in-law) a step child age 26 who has been in a wheel chair and walker for 7 months, a grandaughter who is only 3 , two teenage girls, a 24/7 special ed child-doing cleaning, gardening, washing, cooking,doing minor repairs around house, keeping bills paid, trying to keep the children in clean clothes, keeping them clean, keeping everyone healthy, a wife who wants very little to do with our 24/7 special ed kid, etc.
I understand quite well what you are saying-but try yourself to keep everything going and a float it ain't easy. Yes, agree what you said, but not everybody in the same boat, many different problems for everone, and every different location.
I do not exactly care for the CPS way, but I do my darndest-But let me ask you this; Could you, yourself walk in my shoes one day? I don't think so, My now 16 year old daughter was raped and molested by another, and is now doing prison time for his actions-it took CPS almost a year to put him away. I have to clean, clothe, and a lot of other chores on my own, as well as trying to stay healthy myself. I am 57 years old and am the only one who can handle my son, and I ain't talking beatings and other things either. A kid down the street is beaten and bruised his mother layed in a safe house from a stupid drunk, and guess what? CPS did nothing! I seen women beaten, broken limbs, busted jaws, druggies, alcoholics, and much more I will not go into. NO I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU JUST MAKING SOME POINTS. Believe CPS is a pain in the yahzoo, but I know I have to go along with the programs. Give them an inch and they take a mile-I don't know what state your from but here they are hard as nails and have no compuncture in taking your children. Even though it is not your fault-they have a tendency to attack you with such things as negligece, bad parenting, cruelty, and other stupid mind games.
Granted CPS has a purpose for protecting our chicklets, but why punish one person? I never raped, beat, drugged, or anything like that, but they slam me in court all the time-The wife is considered a great parent-humph if they only knew. I fight 5 women daily and slammed against a brick wall. Of course though I am the bad guy and unintelligiant, dangerous, crazy, I am a nam vet, need I go on? I wish a person who always knows it all could walk in mky shoes day in and day out. Oh, yeah forgot I am unintelligiant and useless. Anyway no offense Holly, but their are many things people learn out of a book, but never experiance. They are always right and you are always wrong. BACK TO THE QUEsTION!

I do not know the circumstances your under with CPS, but get yourself a good lawyer, it isn't easy to be parted from your children when you carry them for 9 onths, a mother carries a child and is part of them. Have you kept your house in order? Have you followed the programs and attended them as CPS ask you or court ordered? Have you completed the classes you have to? Are you divorced? This has a lot of bearing on the case in different ways.Do youkeep your children in clean clothes and clean bodys? Are their any home improvements you have to make? I had to spend out a lot of cash to do what I was told. They still are not quite satisfied. Have you been restricted to anything? Have you surrendered your rights as a parent? ***piece of advice don't surrender your rights! If your on drugs or alcohol get yourself rehabilitated quickly and sober up, if you do. The children should be first and for most in your life. A child must be taught the good and the consequences if they do not want to learn and I DON'T MEAN BEATING THEM OR IGNORING THEM! You must first get your head together and get the weak areas to their satisfaction or you will never see the children again. Start doing what is asked of you from CPS and then go full speed ahead-I know they can be very spiteful and hurting, but please for you and your childrens sakes get it together, I hope this may have some bearing and give you a idea of what they can and will do. GOOD LUCK and hope it turns out well for you and the children. IF I HAVE STEPPED ON ANYONES TOES SORRY, BUT EXPERIANCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF HERE...

Answer 5

Well you just need to be a fit parent and you have nothing to worry about. Only people who are guilt care about things like this. So make sure you play by the book and you will be okay. A lot of people out there are not treating their kids well so they are just making sure. Better safe then sorry.

Answer 6

Why take chances? Keep a neat house, feed your kids three meals a day and love them.

Answer 7

there is really not much you can do about it.

Answer 8

I so agree!!!