The Nicene Creed and the Catholic definition of the Holy Trinity defines the godhead as three in one . Three entities one in substance. By the time this council was formed (325 ad) mankind had fallen so far from the truth which is why those days were referred to as the darkages or age of apostasy. I believe that the father son and holy spirit are three separate entities but one in spirit,purpose,what say ye out there?
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2006-09-12 15:04:05 · 12 answers · asked by james c 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Actually there is no confusion unless you try to teach the trinity.
If all saviors have to be Jesus / Jehovah?
What about the book of Judges. There are several saviors.
But you say those where sent by Jehovah.
Matt 10:40; Luke 4:18; John 3:17 Jehovah sent Jesus.
Therefore if Jehovah sent Jesus as a Savior, Then Jehovah is really the Savior.
Since Jehovah is King, Jesus is King, David is King, Jehu is King they all must be one.
No even though David was said to sit on Jehovah's throne, that doesn't make him God.
Just because you can find the same discription for Jehovah and Jesus, this does not make them the same.
God's glory to no one is a correct statement found in Isaiah, but notice what John 17 says about Jesus glory,
5`And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee;
22`And I, the glory that thou hast given to me, have given to them, that they may be one as we are one;
So all true christian have Jesus' glory,
the glory he had prior to coming to the earth.
So according to your reasoning all christians become equal to God.
May that never happen!
Can we now see why the trinity is so confusing and God dishonoring.
2006-09-13 11:17:45 · answer #1 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
"Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity." [Robert G. Ingersoll]
2006-09-12 15:13:25 · answer #2 · answered by AiW 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Trinity....Yes, three in one. Here are some verses you might want to look over. Matthew Chapter 16 (I believe) is where Jesus is questioned by one of the Pharisees and he answers, "How can I (Jesus) be called son of David and yet David calls me Lord?" (Paraphrased)
Revelation Chapter 22, Jesus clearly states He is God and no other.
The relation between The Holy Spirit and God is clear when Gabriel comes down to talk to Mary about Jesus that she will birth.
There are clear examples of who God is and the Trinity is clear.
God the Father who lived in the heavens
Jesus the Son - God who lived with us
The Holy Spirit - God within us
2006-09-12 15:10:52 · answer #3 · answered by waeyeaw 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe in a triune God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit as one in the Trinity. I think there is so much confusion about this because we cannot comprehend it. How can three be one, and be in different places at the same time? It is beyond my understanding, but I take it on faith.
2006-09-12 15:06:44 · answer #4 · answered by hisnamesaves 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because some people cannot grasp the concept of God being 3 distinctive yet the same being.
2006-09-12 15:08:35 · answer #5 · answered by pooh bear 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is way beyond my comprehension, but I take it on faith because that is how I was brought up. Also I have never seen anyone dis prove it., so it is comfortable for me.
2006-09-12 15:11:30 · answer #6 · answered by oldtrash06 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think no human will ever really understand God as long as we walk on this earth .... our minds are far too limited all we can do is accept what God has told us ....
2006-09-12 15:08:44 · answer #7 · answered by Star 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have scripture references to back up the following if you want them email me.
-God is a Spirit that dwells in believer’s hearts
-We are to be filled with the Spirit just as the Spirit of God filled the temple
-God dwells in us, Jesus dwells in us, the Holy Spirit dwells in us, the Spirit of Christ dwells in us
-God sends the Spirit and Jesus send the Spirit to believers
-the Spirit helps us to overcome our flesh
-the Spirit is our teacher
-the Spirit only speaks what he hears from Jesus
-God created the world by his spirit and Jesus created all things
-Believers are born of the Spirit
-Believers are born of the Spirit and of God to everlasting life by believing that Jesus is the Christ:
-the Spirit is our intercessor and Jesus is our intercessor
-God raised Christ from the dead, the Spirit raised Christ from the dead, and Jesus said he had the power to raise himself from the dead
-Jesus is the firstborn from the dead
-Jesus is the first and the last, without beginning of days, our creator
-the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ testified of Christ by the prophets
-Great is the mystery of godliness; God was manifest in the flesh
-The mystery of Christ and the deep things of God are revealed by the Spirit
-The Father only reveals who the Son is to his elect chosen ones
-God, Jesus, and the Spirit: these three are one
-No man can see God and no man can see Christ for he dwells in a light no one can approach
-Jesus and the Father are one, and Jesus is the bodily form of the invisible God
-Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, Immanuel = God with us
-Jesus is the King of Kings and Daniel’s God was the King of Kings
-Jesus’ kingdom is everlasting and God’s kingdom is eternal
-Jehovah is to come with ten thousand of his saints and Jesus is to come with ten thousand of his saints
-God will not give his glory to another yet all glory is given to the Lamb (Jesus)
-Every knee will bow to Jehovah God and every knee will bow to Jesus
-God is the first and the last and Jesus is the first and the last
-the people who pierced Jehovah will wail, and the people who pierced Jesus will wail
-God and the Lamb are the temple and the light of the new Jerusalem
-God is our Master and Jesus is our Master and we cannot serve two masters so Christ must be God
- John the Baptist prepared a highway of the Lord, and Isaiah said to prepare a highway for our God
- God and Jesus return to the Mt of Olives
- God and Jesus send their angel in the same chapter of Revelations
- The gospel of God and the gospel of Christ are used interchangeably
- The kingdom of God and the kingdom of Christ are used interchangeably
- Jehovah is Lord and Jesus is Lord
- God is Creator and Jesus is Creator of all things
- God pours out his spirit and acts refers to this as Christ pouring out his Spirit
- God is judge and Jesus is Judge
- God is our Shepherd and Jesus is the good Shepherd
- God knows all and Jesus knows all
- God forgives sins and Jesus forgives sins
- God sanctifies us and Jesus sanctifies us
- God is the Alpha and Omega and Jesus is the Alpha and Omega
- Jesus is our Saviour, and there is no other Saviour than Jehovah God, so Jesus must be God
2006-09-12 15:18:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
we cant wrap our simple minds around the true nature of God... im happy about that.
2006-09-12 15:06:07 · answer #9 · answered by AuH20 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
all one and the same.
2006-09-12 15:07:52 · answer #10 · answered by fenian1916 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋