Does PRO CHOICE = PRO ABORTION??

Question

I HATE abortion. I LOATHE abortion. ABORTION is WRONG. I would NEVER have an abortion. But I AM PRO-CHOICE.

Abortion is a medical procedure ONLY to be discussed btwn the patient and the doctor. Would you want someone looking through YOUR medical records. If your doc told you that your baby was sick and going to die in your womb and you will also die, what would YOU do? Would you want anyone else dictating or telling you what to do during this difficult time?

When you don't offer woman a choice, you're telling her that she lacks capablity of making any decisions. You're basically telling her she's stupid and cannot make the right and moral choice for her.

AGAIN, I would NEVER have an abortion. IT is wrong. But AGAIN at the same time , no one has any right to tell me what to do with my body and go through my medical records. You're not GOD, you CANNOT judge. You dont KNOW my situation or anyone else's.

In other words I am AGAINST abortion, but I am PRO CHOICE.

Bimpster- who's murdering for convenience? Did you go thru these women's medical records? How do you KNOW their situation???

marianne ..can u give me a LEGIT site where you got that maybe 0.0000001% .
and also if it is indeed a legit number, how do you know which woman is part of that maybe 0.0000001% ? Are you going to look through their medical records now?

angeltress...AGAIN, are you going to look through everyone's medical records to see why someone had an abortion? do you want someone going through YOUR medical records?
Also please give factual and legit websites when you come up with statistics or conclusions on why someone gets an abortion.

Answer 1

THANK YOU!! I try to tell people on this forum all the time that it's not between being PRO LIFE and PRO ABORTION! it's different when we are pro-choice; as you stated there is no way 70 year old men can make a decision on what a young pregnant woman should do with her body and her life.
The government shouldn't intervene, and whatever choice the woman makes, it's between her, the doctor and her conscience.

Answer 2

I don't know specific, individual reasons for pregnancy. I know there are rapes, incest, medical deformities of the child, life risk to the mother, wanting to wait to have children, and feeling too old to have children are the reasons cited for abortions ( http://www.abortionfacts.com ). I can't think of any other reasons. Regardless of what your income or lifestyle is, those are the reasons women have abortions. I read in a magazine several years ago that the majority of abortions (I believe it was somewhere near 60%) were performed because the mother felt she was finished having children. These are the reasons the MOTHER gives, not what some politician is saying. You say abortion should only be discussed between a woman and her doctor, but at Planned Parenthood, a secretary, nurse, counselor or whomever it is, schedules the abortion. The doctors performing the abortions are there to do just that: perform abortions. Your OBGYN that you see for your womanly check-ups will probably not be the surgeon. It's not just between a woman and her doctor anymore, is it? I think abortion, all current forms of it, should be taught along with sex-ed. Women have a right to know what their options are. Women have a right to know they can give their child a loving home, all expenses paid. What I think is wrong, is that if a woman fires a gun in her belly days before her due date (it happened last spring), she's not charged with any crime. Had that baby been born, she would've been charged with murder. The baby could've lived outside the womb, yet it still is not a PERSON by America's definition. I think that's wrong. Pro-Choice people don't ask about options for the baby.

Answer 3

Yes, pro-choice does equal pro-abortion because the pro-choice mindframe is what makes abortion possible in our country at all.

It's a lot simpler and logical than it is sometimes made out to be.
If a fetus is a person, abortion is murder. If abortion is murder, there is no justification for it other than self defense.

For example, a tubal pregnancy would be an instance of self defense, since in this case the intent of the doctors and parents is not to kill the child, but to save the mother. The child's death is an unintended consquence of the removal of the fallopian tube where the pregnancy took place. This is called the principle of double effect. Note that there is no abortion in such a case as defined as the intentional ending of the baby's life. This type of procedure was safe even before abortion was legalized.)

Answer 4

I agree with you completely on that point. One can be Pro-Choice and not agree with Abortion. I wouldn't want the task of checking up on everyone to see Why they are having anything done! But what does sicken me is to see women who merely use it as a form of birth control. But I believe that responsibility falls on the woman and the doctors who repeatedly do this. As it is Legal........ so the others can complain all the want, but complaining doesn't change the fact that it is legal.

And to liken this to getting drunk and driving... cops normally don't sit at the corner of every street on friday night and pull every single car over to see if the driver has been drinking. I find that comparison rather poor.

When it comes to abortion (and other things) some people suddenly turn into the moral police and want to dig into everyone else's lives to tell them what they are doing wrong and how they should correct it. This tells me that those people do not have lives of their own.... and to them, I suggest you adopt all the kids you can to prove just how against this you really are. By ignoring the children that are already without homes, those kids who mothers decided they couldn't abort but left them on the streets to fend for themselves, or left them to the state to deal with, shows you aren't much better.

Answer 5

I had to have a D and C because I had a tubal pregnancy and was bleeding on the inside and had been for days.

I didn't even know I was pregnant much less bleeding on the inside.

I had to do it, I thought for awhile this was "murder" and I felt terrible about it, but I had my tubes tied, and it wasn't in the womb and it would of never the doctor said been a baby.

You don't really have a choice in the matter, you suffer and die, or you do it.

There is a differant in wanting to because you don't want a baby, then having to to save your life....

Or I sure hope so......

Answer 6

I agree with you completely, and a lot of people here are missing the point.

Everyone has different perceptions on abortion. Some think it's absolutely wrong under any circumstance, and some think it's fine within a time frame.

But that issue is irrelevant here. Being pro-choice means that you are not allowing some one else to make that decision for you. Our country is founded on the principles of FREEDOM, not Bible precepts.

Answer 7

Yes, Pro-CHoice = Pro Abortion.

For you to say you are Pro Choice but against abortion, is to redefine the entire slogan and what it means. Since you said that abortion is wrong, are you saying that you personally FEEL it is wrong, or that you KNOW that it is objectively and morally wrong? Let's not bring in the extenuating circumstances because those RARE situations cloud the whole debate. Millions of babies are aborted each year, how many are due to such medical urgencies? The statistics are very low on this. A good book you should read is Janet Folger's "True to Life". Pro life folks tells the woman what her choice should be, a live baby instead of a dead baby. Pro life folks informs the woman that abortion entails dismembering a living person in her womb, denying that person the right to life. It's not that the woman cannot make any decision, but it is whether she is making the RIGHT decision. Pro life is not about scrutinising your medical records or history. That's confidential. Pro life is about telling would-be mothers that they are murdering their own children. And again, please note that Prolife folks are addressing the majority cases of abortions that are purely for convenience or to get out of unwanted consequences. Extreme medical cases are not the reason for proabortion laws.

Answer 8

The only appropriate position for any Christian is to be absolutely, 100 percent Pro Life.

The small number of exception can and will be properly dealt with, as necessary, by those who are intimately involved and affected by them.

What we have today is legalized murder on a scale that no one could have ever imagined, all in the name of "CHOICE".

CHOICE is a political term.

Your take on this sounds appropriate, but by saying you are pro-choice, you are playing into the hands of the enemy, and making possible the horrible deaths of millions of innocents.

Answer 9

I am so very anti abortion, but i do feel that it is not my job to tell someone what to do with their body. I was never given the job of telling someone to either live or to die that gift was not given to me, that is GOD'S job, not mine. if you were a friend of mine or heck not even my friend, but asked me my opinion and what i thought of it, i would tell you and tell you that there are other choices for you. but i would not tell you that you have to or you will burn in hell, that you will find out when you die. it is not my or my conscience that has to live with it, so i would not push my beliefs on you. I would never be able to say doc will you kill my baby? but there are others who can. I do not say that to be mean, my best friend had one done , i do not chastise her, nor the others that i know that have had it done. i do pray for them though, for guidance.

Answer 10

You know and I know that most abortions are NOT done because the baby will be sick or deformed, or because the mother's life is in danger, or because some poor kid got raped by her Uncle Charlie...
Very few pro-lifers would argue with you that, in those VERY RARE cases, the decision ought to be between the mother, her doctor, and her God, and we both know this.
We are adults here, let's stop lying to each other about this. Most abortions are done because someone decided that to have a baby at this time would be "inconvenient".
Suppose someone were to decide that allowing YOU to continue to live were "inconvenient"? Don't laugh, my dear, you will be old one day, and most of us know that, as we get older, we become a burden, on our families, and on society. Something will have to be done soon, I am told, since we "Baby Boomers" are now becoming "heirloomers"...there simply will not be resources enough to take care of us all. We will be "inconvenient"...
Suppose, by the time you are, say...oh, I don't know, let's say....65?....the government decides to make it legal for your next of kin to decide to terminate your life, since you have become a burden? Such things have not been unknown in history...once, old folks were simply left to die on their own...keeping them around was "inconvenient".
Continue with the "pro-choice" noise, and the next thing you know, someone may be "choosing" to end YOUR life.......