I previously asked how a bunch of men were able to prophesy thousands of years ago that there would be fighting in the Middle East. Everyone said "Oh, there's always been fighting there." Well, then how did those men know there would always be fighting there? How did they know the fighting wouldn't stop? How did they know the Jews or the Muslims or the Christians wouldn't leave and go somewhere else and start fighting? How did they know that unless there is a true God who told them it would happen? Nobody would be able to know those things without the help of an all-knowing God. The Bible is real..so is the God who wrote it. I'm curious to hear what you have to say, but really I know the ones who disagree are just the ones who agree the most. But really, what do you think of that?
2006-09-12 05:30:32 · 17 answers · asked by Getoff_ofmycloud! 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It is not just in the middle east that there has been fighting -- there has been fighting everywhere. As I said in my post to your previous question, relying on prophesy is perilous. If someone had prophesied that the World Trade Center would be destroyed in September 2001, before it happened, that might be taken with some seriousness. But as I said before, predicting fighting is like predicting sunrise. I emphasize again that the proper measure of a book is how well it agrees with known facts, and the bible fails miserably.
2006-09-12 05:36:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, the Bible isnt "real" as you claim. Its really easy to explain.
Imagine just how inteligent the persons who wrote the Bible were. They were so intelligent, they were even able to figure out almost every argument AGAINST it, so they wrote those arguments into in by inserting circular logic that a Christian cant fight their way past. So, it stands to reason that this area was a hotbed of political and religious ideas. Is it not surprising that they predicted that, if they wrote a book stating that it was the only truth, this book and its followers would eventually war with others who had similar books that spoke of only one truth that the possessors held in their hands?
What I mean is, even I can see that, as long as there are at least two competeing religions that claim to be the only true religion, there will always be war and death over those beleifs. Why does that make the Bible a soothsaying tool? Thats just common sense - put two stone age thinkers togeher who both think they are correct, and you will get a war. Nothing too amazing in that prediction....
2006-09-12 12:46:56 · answer #2 · answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You original question was, 'at the end of days, there will be fighting in the Middle East'. Now it's 'there will always be fighting in the Middle East'. There's quite a bit of difference there: the first one gives you one of the signs of the End, the other one is just a general observation about the future. Not being a Biblical scholar, I have to take your word for what the Bible actually says, but your new question seems rather pointless.
But here's my counter-question: Has there always been fighting in the Middle East? And if there has, is it different from fighting in other places? For instance, how long has Europe been a peaceful place? Before Kosovo, there was the Cold War; before that, WW2 and WW1, and before that countless German/Prussian/Napoleonic/etc wars.
Sorry, it's not a very convincing prophecy, whichever it was.
2006-09-12 12:41:30 · answer #3 · answered by ThePeter 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not much different than the Oracle of Delphi (the real one... not the poster here) claiming that Alexander the Great would end up being called "Great" and Why he would be called Great... which came true. No different than Nostradomus' prophecies, which could easily be seen as coming true, especially the WTC.
God didn't write anything... people were inspired to write About God. TO say everything in the Bible IS God, places a book equal to God... which the Bible itself says NOTHING is equal to God, nothing is Beside him.
So did God tell the Oracle of Delphi about Alexander? What about Nostradomus? Or are they in league with the Devil?
Prophecies have been given for countless ages... and it would be very easy to show where many of them came true. SO why is it when it comes to the Bible, it HAS to be true because of that? Yet everything else is merely "myth" or the devil or some other thing that is making it happen?
You are trying to force something because You believe it. Yet I'm willing to bet that Pagan Prophecies are demonic to you, simply because You don't believe in them.
2006-09-12 12:45:44 · answer #4 · answered by Kithy 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
because they were smart enough to realize that humans are by nature, greedy, power-hungry, and territorial. there will ALWAYS be fighting (unless of course the revelations come true) but its safe to say that there will be fighting in the future. im not exactly a prophet but even i can see that... they key to prophesying is to not give an exact date.
how can you say the ones who disagree are the ones who agree the most? what kind of logic are you using or were u even taught logic? If you believe A, and i believe B and A doesnt = B, then how are you claiming that B = A?
2006-09-12 12:33:24 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Were there a prediction that a three ton duck with purple bacillus would land on the head of a man named Steve and poop gold: now THAT would be prophesy. Claiming that war in the middle east is proof of God is pretty weak...
2006-09-12 12:37:55 · answer #6 · answered by Blackacre 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, it was in the bible that there would always be conflict in the Middle East. Trying to get peace in the Middle East is a waste of lives, time, and money.
2006-09-12 12:33:13 · answer #7 · answered by Stranger in a Strangeland 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I answered your other question. I think it is very interesting and I agree nobody would be able to know that without the help of an all-knowing God. I also agree that anyone who disagrees---agrees the most. (Don't worry, those people just hate the fact that they were wrong all this time and we weren't). God bless.
2006-09-12 12:33:07 · answer #8 · answered by BeeFree 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Well, if it is the location of the holy places of three religions, that, as I said before, do not know how to share, it is easy to predict eternal warfare.
2006-09-12 12:44:19 · answer #9 · answered by Shinkirou Hasukage 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Thing didn't get as heated as they are until 1947--when the Jews took their homeland back. Complete fulfillment of Bible prophecy. The Bible is true!
2006-09-12 12:34:14 · answer #10 · answered by Brigid O' Somebody 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋