I don't think it is the Americans against the war that will lose it, it is the poor leadership and poor planing for what is happening in Iraq. They are engaged in a civil war and they should have that right, the Iraqi people should be able to determine what kind of government they want and a puppet government set up by George Bush is set up to fail. Just look at how he is screwing up an established govenment here in the U.S.
2006-09-12 05:05:25
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answered by Anonymous
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No one will remember someone who hates and doubts their own country Erudite.
Has the USA failed in Germany from WWII? Obviously not but we are still there. The USA was still fighting in Germany until 1949, 4 years after the war "ended".
The Korean war brought Democracy to Korea.
The USA failed to bring a Democratic government to Vietnam when Vietnam was being backed by a strong communist government. Without the communist backing Vietnam would surely be a Democratic nation.
You can note that communism is not spreading into Iraq. Do not compare apple to oranges Erudite.
2006-09-14 10:17:34
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answered by god_doesnt_love_erudite 1
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In Vietnam we were fighting for the wrong reasons and with the wrong methods, our government leaders, people like Kissinger (who won a Nobel Prize if you like irony), were the bad guys, and the Vietnamese could rightly be called freedom fighters. They were certainly not enemies of the American people.
In Iraq we won the war. Now we are trying to keep the peace between historically warring factions that have little or no respect for human life or human decency. Faced with murderous criminals (religious and racist fanatics) of all ages and both sexes, our troops are supposed to keep within the rules.
As a previous answerer said, the effort can succeed if we turn over the job to people with less qualms about methods, and it can fail if so many so-called "Americans" continue to make such an effort (such as the specious argument you post here as a question) to be certain the peace-keeping fails.
The present situation isn't Vietnam, its more like 1936, and the enemy is far more numerous (and bloodthirsty) than the German army ever was.
There is a difference in being against your country's efforts when they are wrong (the Vietnamese neither had done nor wanted to do harm to Americans, in fact they fought with us against Japan)...and being a traitor to your country when it is faced with an enemy more than willing to kill every last free citizen of the world. Those who want our troops to fail are either on the other side, or need to learn a great deal and improve their thinking.
In Iraq our troops ARE faced by enemies of the American people...and of free and forward-looking people everywhere.
By the way, Democratic presidents got us into Vietnam...and it was bill Clinton that opened the door to Islamic terrorism.
2006-09-12 13:17:33
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answered by Go Tech 1
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South Vietnam failed themselves. South Vietnam fell a year after the U.S. pulled out. Because Congress refused to declare war, the U.S. could only do a police action and stay in South Vietnam. A war would have allowed the U.S. to bomb North Vietnam to bits.
Here is what politicans have learned about Vietnam. If you are the underdog party, ALWAYs say that the party in power is losing the war and that the war is ALWAYS wrong. If your party is in power ALWAYS say you are winning the war and ALWAYS say the war was right.
If the Chinese went to Alaska and killed every American, the party in power will say that we should go to war. After a couple of years, the party that isn't in power would say we should never have gone to war and that the party in power actually caused the war.
If you want a long protracted war the U.S. fought before Vietnam, just look at the Indian Wars. It took about 200 years (starting when the U.S. was just a colony) to "pacify" the American Indians. Nobody thought losing was an option then.
2006-09-12 12:46:07
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answered by gregory_dittman 7
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The situation is very different, in Vietnam there was north Vietnam, supported by the USSR and China, but in Iraq the land base for insurgents is in Syria and Iran, Syria is not very stable and both countries are not supported by any Superpower.
The problems in Iraq are more of a fight between Sunnis and Shiites than between Insurgents and the US military.
2006-09-12 12:06:44
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answered by Anonymous
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The US failed in Vietnam due to criers and whiners like you. Only then they were in higher places. Thank God your only an anonymous computer cry er and whiner and not in the real media or politics. As for failure this time. I doubt it. There is already a winner in the war. Its the new government of Iraq. Its young and unstable now but hopefully with some backing it will thrive. If so, WE WIN!!!!
2006-09-12 12:20:01
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answered by lostokieboy 4
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I've got to laugh at people who still believe some kind of victory in Iraq is possible. Americans really are the most gullible and ill informed nation in the world. They started the war and they lost-they should deal with that very obvious fact no matter how unpalatable it might be.
2006-09-12 12:07:38
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answered by Anonymous
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The only way that the US will fail like we did in Nam is if the Liberals get elected and take over Congress. They did it to the veterans who served in Nam and have been trying to do it today. The lies, not even half truths, and the down right dishonesty that they show is sad. The press only shows the horid things that goes on and not the good things. They did this time and again in Nam.
2006-09-12 12:12:47
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answered by fatboysdaddy 7
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Public support is not that importent as winning over the local Iraqi population. That failure is killing us in droves. Now the situation has devolved into a civil war thus it's out of our hands now we are just along for the ride. If bush got a brain transplant he'd pack it up and go home and save a boat load of lives and money.
2006-09-12 12:12:44
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answered by brian L 6
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I actually agree with some of that. If we pull out because who ever is in charge bows to political pressure. Yes we will lose. It won't just be the war in Iraq we lose though. We lose there they will be here next. After they get done laughing at how weak we are. I don't find anything funny about it though.
2006-09-12 12:05:44
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answered by Stand 4 somthing Please! 6
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