If you haven't read the bible in from cover to cover AND study material to provide historical and cultural context, you are unqualified to refute it.
Yet they waste their time posting embarassing, ignorant "refutations" here all the while considering themselves to be intellectuals.
Kinda like saying - Jews can't wear hats because their horns will get in the way.
2006-09-12 04:43:28 · 55 answers · asked by Salami and Orange Juice 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Athiests: I didn't mean this question as an opportunity for you to continue to embarass yourselves. But thanks. Very entertaining.
2006-09-12 04:53:34 · update #1
Jews have horns?
I fricken knew it.
2006-09-12 04:46:21 · answer #1 · answered by STEVE-0 2 · 6⤊ 4⤋
The Bible claims in the very first chapter that the universe was created in 7 days by an invisible "god", who created it simply by fiat. That's false. The Bible is therefore refuted.
Now, if there's something else later on that says "oh, we were just kidding about that 'god' and 'creation' stuff", you can point it out, and I'll say "oh, I'm sorry, you're right, I should have read it cover-to-cover before saying it was refuted".
If by "historical and cultural context" you mean "it was just myths tailored to appeal to the people of the time with their limited knowledge of the universe", well, then of course it's not refuted at all, and I'd agree with you completely. But then it'd be the Biblical literalists embarrassing themselves, not we atheists, right?
Either way, you screwed up here with this post. Why don't you just admit that you're wrong and apologize, and try harder next time?
Oh, and yes, like most atheists, I've almost certainly read and studied the Bible more than you have. Nine years of religious school, including numerous times speaking to the church from the pulpit will tend to do that, as will 25 years of regular Sunday church attendance and a good solid 10 years of Sunday School _in addition to_ church on Sunday, and two years of Catechism study. If you think that Atheists are generally ignorant of the Bible, you're simply wrong again, and you should have looked into that before posting.
2006-09-12 04:59:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
Okay I have done both. Before I did I was like you. After I did I was an atheist. And as far as your lord and saviour, had you been born in Iran you'd be wearing a towel on your head and taking long walks to Mecca. Religon is cultural. Myths used to establish a reason for a) man's existensence and b) the existense of the belief. The Pharoah's gained power in ancient Egypt by telling the people that they were the ones that made the nile rise and fall to irrigate the lands. The Greeks placed lightening rods on their moutain temples to say that they controlled the fury of the Gods, and Constintine the Great fabricated all sorts of paraphilnelia that "proved" the exsistence of Jesus and God's will that Constantine should rule.
Religon is a method of control. Guess that makes you another statistic.
2006-09-12 05:01:24 · answer #3 · answered by curtaincaller 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You my man are very confused. We care about your well being is why we are here doing what we do. I have read the bible cover to cover and went back to study parts of it. I was trying to undersand how people get what they read out of it. I was not reading it to prove it is true or not because I know it is just a story book. I only wanted to understand why people take parts of it and matches it with parts from another part of the book. I find it is just how they make money. Twist it around to make it say what you want it to say for the correct wording to gain more power over the masses. People know that the sheep will follow anything that is said because it is from that book.
Please get out of it before you waste you entire life and make someone richer on your hard work.
Please do not teach it to your kids because no one should be brainwashed and children will believe anything they are told. They are too young to understand what sex is all about so why would you want to teach them that they are going to hell if they don't get a job and give money to a god? Let them make up their own minds when they get old enough to on their own.
And the horns on anyone is just a myth that arrived on earth from religion. That would have never been a thought the man kind if religion had never been forced on people. Believe it or not there is no god and the bible is nothing more then a story book.
2006-09-12 04:52:41 · answer #4 · answered by Don K 5 · 5⤊ 0⤋
I think you would be surprised at how many DO study it.
And aren't you doing what you just complained about them doing? Refuting without really telling us what you are refuting. You're just saying "atheists are embarassing themselves". It just looks like you are mad because they say things about your religion. "Unqualified"? Since when is a forum on the Internet about being qualified to state an opinion?
So which "refutations" you have seen are ignorant and WHY are they ignorant?
And, your whole paragraph is your last line. "Jews can't wear hats cause their horns get in the way".
2006-09-12 04:58:21 · answer #5 · answered by Kithy 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
OK Miss Know-it-all, explain how Jonah lived in a whale's gut with all of the other food and slop for three days and how he survived and didn't get flushed out. Or how Noah gathered all of the animals from all over the world and how they sailed for 40 days without concerns for food, water, toilet facilities, etc. and how they all got back home after the ark docked. The talking donkey? Why prayer isn't answered if Jesus said if any 2 will agree, it shall be done ... were there not enough people praying for safety in the World Trade Towers, or the holocaust?
Answers such as, "that is God's business", "God knows", etc. don't count -- IF you have the answers from having read the bible so well!
2006-09-12 04:49:31 · answer #6 · answered by SB 7 · 9⤊ 0⤋
Embarassment is a choice. It seems like you are embarassed for them. The average atheist shares what he thinks he knows about God or the bible and thats it. No embarassment and no other thoughts about it.
People who have been in church all of their life are only capable of thinking in terms of people consciencely acknowledging or denying the existance of God. So when an atheist shares his viewpoint you have to understand that he does not think of God at all. It is very easy to not have knowledge or understanding of something that nobody has every taught you about.
Asking an atheist why they do not believe in God is the same thing as a rocket scientist asking a ditch digger whether or not he believes anything about nucleur fission. The ditch digger probably does not give that any thought.
2006-09-12 04:50:01 · answer #7 · answered by Joe K 6 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Ok, I just wrote some stuff down. It can be summed up by saying, God is a giant space hampster, he rewards loyal followers with fresh cedar shavings. Unbelivers are thrown into the hampster wheel of hell to spin forever. So untill you study all that, you cannot refute it. Your not qualified. You have no problem stating that all other religions are false, but you have not studied them either. All your saying is, I know I am right. If someone tells me, the toothfairy is really real, I don't have to study mythology, toothfairy lore, history to see how many people found money in place of their teeth, I know its a silly story.
2006-09-12 04:48:05 · answer #8 · answered by Arcturus R 3 · 9⤊ 0⤋
I have read the Bible cover to cover. It's extremely grueling and boring and repetitive and I fully understand why 99% of people can't force themselves to slog through the entire thing.. It's also a model of religious intolerance and bigotry, with many examples of massacres of innocents and discrimination towards women (sanctioned by God, or in some cases performed by him). Yeah, there are some gems of wisdom in there, but there's a lot of bad stuff too.
2006-09-12 04:51:24 · answer #9 · answered by 006 6 · 8⤊ 0⤋
Are you kidding?
Are we supposed to believe that god talked to prominent men, who then wrote a book, then said it was true, and you believed it? Intellectuals know a work of fiction...having read the bible as a christian (was) for many years, that is all it is.....fiction. There is more truth in Star Trek, and I hate that too. You are possibly the dumbest smart person on Yahoo answers. Intellectuals have to talk down to people like you, it shouldn't shock you. Should I type slower?
Should have said dumbest dumb person. I am embarrassed for you. Sorry lady!
2006-09-12 04:52:01 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
not everyone believes the bible to be the word of god....plus atheists don't believe there ever was a god. they believe the bible to be a book of multiple stories my multiple authors. the book is more about life lessons and less on worship.
there are people without faith. to have faith you need the ability to believe in something you cannot touch and cannot see...you must simply believe. religion and god isn't for everyone.
many people are put off by the majority of religions condemning other religions as being false or lesser than what they believe in. what i don't understand is why the people who do believe in god must try to convince the non-believers. why don't the ones who are going to the promised land let all the others just perish. that way they won't get to their special place.
just let everyone be what they want to be. besides its god that said (paraphrased) god is in you, it doesn't come from a book or from a church.
2006-09-12 04:54:34 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋