Why do some, not all, Christians lie?

Question

Why do some of you who are Christians lie about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?

Is this a piece of anti-Evolution propoganda that you get taught at your church? Is there a science textbook somewhere written by someone who has a Biology or Chemistry Doctorate, and from an Accreditted School?

How about Harvard, any body with a PHD in science from Harvard write a book about how Evolution violates the second law of Thermodynamics?

Christians, get close to your monitors, ok,

heres some fine print, ok, we're not fooled, we will fight you on every single anti-evolution point you bring up and we will win. For your side to win all you need is one, *one* *piece* of *credible* *empirical* *evidence* for your Theory of Creationism.

Do you have one?

Answer 1

This is going to go over alot of heads without an example of the law and the violation.

Answer 2

I really do not want to spend too much time on your question, all though I could probably spend hours on it. I know that what ever evidence is presented to you, you would still hold fast to the theory of evolution. I say "theory" because evolution has never been presented as being provable fact to the best of my knowledge. Even laboratory test set out to prove evolution do nothing more than to give more credit to creation. For example: More than ninety years of fruit fly experiments, involving 3,000 consecutive generations, give absolutely no basis for believing that any natural or artificial process can cause an increase in complexity and viability. No clear genetic improvement has ever been observed in any form of life, despite the many unnatural efforts to increase mutation rates.
Also, the simplest conceivable form of life should have at least 600 different protein molecules. The mathematical probability that only one molecule could form by the chance arrangement of the proper sequence of amino acids is far less than 1 in 10(450) (1 in 10 to the 450th power). The magnitude of the number 10(450) can begin to be appreciated by realizing that the visible universe is about 10(28) inches in diameter. (10 to the 28th power).
There now, I have given you *two* *pieces* of *credible* *empirical* *evidence* for Creationism, and I have more where that came from. However you will read this and say something in the nature of yeah right, whatever, that proves nothing, ect, ect etc. Just so you know, this is what I have read about Thermodynamics. I've never studied Thermodynamics so I can't really answer the first part of your question.
"The more orthodox scientific view is that the entropy of the universe must forever increase to its final maximum value. It has not yet reached this: we should not be thinking about it if it had. It is still increasing rapidly, and so must have had a beginning; there must have been what we may describe as a 'creation' at a time not infinitely remote." -Jeans

Answer 3

Are you saying that the 2nd Law of thermodynamics is not real? YOU are the biggest idiot. You do not even know the differnce between theory and Law. Your weak theory doesn't mean crap compared to a Law. What is the lie that Christians say about the 2nd Law? You have no argument, you are just a pathetic moron. Evolution clearly doesn't work and you are my empirical evidence.

Answer 4

I can tell you one thing, Bucko. This isn't a war between the believers and non believers. I don't believe in the evolution theory because it has more holes than a 10 pound Swiss cheese. If it were a boat, I certainly wouldn't put out to sea in it, 'cause I'd drown sure as shootin'! I don't feel the need to match you scientific point to scientific point. God created the universe and everything we know. He also created things we haven't even discovered yet. No matter what you say, you can't make me believe all this happened accidentally. I don't care what you believe in......why in the hell do you care what I believe in? Are you just trying to recruit some company in Hell? I'm perfectly willing to let you believe as you choose and not call you an idiot because of it......why can't you grant me the same courtesy?

Answer 5

well because the law clearly states that things go from order to disorder. if we evoluved then in the primal pool "which we came from". then we would have moved from disorder to order to create life. which can not happen by this law. the law clearly states that no isolated system can stand on its own. and again there is much empirical evidence for evolotion as there is for creationism. even Dr. Dawkins and Gould have stated that the fossill record does not fully support evolution.

here is the third part of the law.

http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tech/node81.html

here are some quotes:

The fossil record with its abrupt transitions offers no support for gradual change ........ All palaeontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way of intermediate forms; transitions between major groups are characteristically abrupt" (Gould, 1977).
and other qoutes.

Also Dr T S Kemp, Curator of Zoological collections, Oxford University said:-"In virtually all cases a new taxon appears for the first time in the fossil record with most definitive features already present, and practically no known stem-group forms." (Kemp, 1999).

Evolutionist David Raup, Curator of Geology at Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History also said:- "The evidence we find in the geological record is not nearly as compatible with Darwinian natural selection as we would like it to be ....We now have a quarter of a million fossil species but the situation hasn't changed much. The record of evolution is surprisingly jerky and, ironically, we have even fewer examples of evolutionary transition than in Darwin's time ... so Darwin's problem has not been alleviated" (Raup, Field museum of Natural History Bulletin).


The prominent British evolutionist Richard Dawkins speaking of the Cambrian fauna, has made the following comment: "And we find many of them already in an advanced state of evolution, the very first time they appear. It is as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. Needless to say, this appearance of sudden planting has delighted creationists". Richard Dawkins, The Blind Watchmaker (New York: W.W. Norton Co., 1987).

"One of the reasons I started taking this anti-evolutionary view, was ... it struck me that I had been working on this stuff for twenty years and there was not one thing I knew about it. That's quite a shock to learn that one can be so misled so long. ...so for the last few weeks I've tried putting a simple question to various people and groups of people. Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing that is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing -- it ought not to be taught in high school'." Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London Keynote address at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City, 5 November, 1981

and last and most important.

A little science estranges a man from God; a lot of science brings him back.". . . Sir Francis Bacon

Answer 6

Creation is not a theory. Creation is a fact. Evolution is a not a theory. It does not qualify as a theory. There is NO empirical evidence to support evolution. PERIOD! Praise ye the LORD!

Evolutionists are sooo smart. Why everyone knows that transistors are popping out of the ground. Transistors are made from only two elements. They are astoundinly simple when compared to a single living cell. But where are the transistors springing out of the earth? Hmmmm, According to evolutionists the earth is billions of years old. But to date NOT ONE SINGLE TRANSISTOR has every been discovered to be poking out of the earth!

With training most atheists can eventually be trained to feed themselves, but only with much difficulty.

Squirm, godless liberals squirm

Give me a thumbs down. I eat them for breakfast

Better to die for Christ than to convert to Islam at GUNPOINT!

Answer 7

I'd like to see one piece of empirical evidence of one order of creature becoming another...one piece of evidence of a jellyfish becoming a monkey, or a protoplasm becoming a frog...

Creationism evidence: 1) We are here.
2) We are too complex to occur in nature.
3) Scientific probability has proven that any life at all is unlikely, much less millions of different forms of it occuring by sheer chance

That doesn't mean I believe for or against evolution, I just believe that the evidence is incredibly lacking, and that the conclusions are incredibly premature.

A great proof of evolution would be any form of totally lifeless inert matter becoming a life form at the very simplest scale. Hordes of life exist, from single cell, up to the most complexly engineered organisms in the universe. Seems like one living cell would not be too hard to create from natural elements, since it has apparently happened repeatedly in nature anyway, if evolution is correct.

Source material for your conclusions, please, Mr. Scientist?

Answer 8

"Win," "Proof" did you invent a time machine to prove something. Short of being there, I don't see how anyone will have the answers in this life.

I'm a Christian that tends to believe that God created us in the midst of Evolution and I can't believe how important this stuff is to you. Your description sounds like a war, a war that doesn't matter either way whether you have faith or not.

Answer 9

How about the fact that natural instincts prove that learning occurred before we were born. Faith, not religion, will give you the answers you are looking for. A closed mind is not open to accept instruction. Prayer, which is common to all religions, and an open, patient mind will result in the answers you seek. This is faith, not religion. God will reveal himself to you as He wants you to see him, then you will understand. Are you still open minded, or do you really think you know everything? Seek your answers form the source, the master instructor I call God.

Answer 10

What I don't understand is why you feel the need "to fight".
Look...It takes more faith for you to believe that you are nothing more than a highly evolved anImal...than it takes for me to believe I came from God.

We already have more than "one piece". No experiment has ever shown that matter has the ability to come alive. The best explanation for life is still that "life only comes from pre-existing life". As you search for truth, perhaps you should consider the possibility that the source of all life... is GOD.