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ok, i have built my own design of a fog chiller in a garbage can, i had to use 5" duct instead of 4" because menards was out, but i have a 1000 watt Constant fog machine, (It will go for 6 hours nonstop) but i cannot seem to get the fog to get chilled enough, i have 2 Motts apple juice containers (about 14 inches tall and about 5 1/2 inches thick) as 2 of my ice chunks, then i have a 1 gallon milk jug anda 1 gallon milk jug for the other, i can slide them into to middle of the tubing and get teh pipes cold, but they do not get it cold fast enough, i would like some suggestions on what to do for this, also i would like any halloween ideas for going to a campground and taking an RV out there, and using the rest of the campsite for decorations.
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Thanks to those of you who actually give me 'real' answers :)

2006-09-11 15:46:34 · 7 answers · asked by BillGatesJr wizkid 2 in Society & Culture Holidays Other - Holidays

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OK, I'm not a techie, and can't help you with the fog machine. But the question of a campground I feel compelled to answer. You must discuss this with the ranger or whatever responsible person is involved in letting you into the campground (the owner in private grounds), and be sure they understand what you want to do, and that you WILL CLEAN EVERYTHING UP BEFORE YOU LEAVE.

And do it.

Having said that, I would recommend you research the real pagan holiday, Samhain, which is November first, and which is what Halloween is really about. It is the start of the calendar year for traditional witches (Celtic, presumably, although I'm not the historian of the group), and is the animal harvest. This is when the animals were slaughtered to fill the smoke house to preserve meats for the winter. Later on you may have enough snow to freeze a carcass, but in the meantime, you had better fire up the smoke house. That's why Halloween is dark side; death and blood. It is the death and blood of the food animals, and it is appropriate that we remember that we will die, too, and to be respectful to those animals which are raised to feed us.

2006-09-11 15:58:30 · answer #1 · answered by auntb93again 7 · 1 0

For the ice, just go buy three or four 5-pound bags of crushed "party ice" at your local grocery store. Pour them into the trash can the night of your presentation. If it's STILL not getting cold enough fast enough, pour some salt -- common ordinary table salt will do, rock salt will be better -- over the ice. This will reduce the ice's temperature below freezing (it's how you make homemade ice cream).

Your real problems are with the physics involved -- the 5" pipe is 25% larger than the 4" on the outside but 50% larger internally (pi times the diameter versus pi r squared), so you have half again as much fog to chill with a 5" pipe as with a 4-incher. And then by using a trash can you reduce the length of time the fog is IN the chiller (unless you bring it in from the top and pipe it out the bottom, of course). So you need to "supercharge" your chilling procedure, which is why I recommend salting the ice.

As for your campsite idea... I second the motion of checking to make sure your biggest Hallowe'en scare isn't the park ranger running you in for something you didn't know was illegal. That'd suck big time.

However, this IS Hallowe'en, so I'll quite with the "play safe out there" talk and get on with the spooky ideas. And while everybody is going to chime in with Friday the 13th (wasn't that the one with the psycho killer in the camp by the lake?), I'm going to suggest watching Universal's 1940 film "The Wolf Man," because there are some absolutely AWESOME scenes in the forest, with fog clinging to the ground and the werewolf stalking his victims from behind fog-shrouded trees. And having werewolves rustling in the forest at your camp site would be, well, I'd recommend offering people a change of underwear. :-)

Also check out Tod Browning's "Freaks" (it's going to play on TCM or IFC in the next two weeks, I just set it up to Tivo last night). There are some really hair-raising bits with all the members of the circus crawling, flapping, slithering and hopping through the mud under a circus wagon near the end... GREAT inspiration for an RV in the forest.

What an awesome idea, though! All the best!

2006-09-15 16:10:54 · answer #2 · answered by Scott F 5 · 1 0

My husband built me a fog chiller last year. He used an old ice cooler and ran the fog through that. He put crushed ice in the cooler, used chicken wire to run a "tube" from the end of the fogger through one end of the cooler and out the other end (of the cooler). As the fog ran through the cooler with ice in the bottom, the fog was chilled enough when it was shot out the other end of the cooler that it stayed close to the ground. He found the instructions on the internet. If I happen to come across the website I'll come back and post the link.

Hope I didn't confuse you..

2006-09-19 11:16:14 · answer #3 · answered by thegirlsnextdoor2005 3 · 0 0

Try using some dry ice. You can also take dry ice with you to the camp site and sit in a bucket with a little water and it will produce a natural fog for you. You can also take 2 blocks of dry ice and place a lillte bit of magnisium in between and place it in water and you will get a red fog. As far as decorating the camp sit why not try bats and werewolves and take advantage of you enviroment. For little kids think teen wolf but if you want to go all the way just don't be disappionted when the little one skip past you. Have fun

2006-09-19 11:15:04 · answer #4 · answered by Ann D 3 · 0 0

I don't know enough about that stuff to tell you how to get it cold enough --my best thought is to maybe find some sort of crafty message board and ask there? like martha stewart?

and I say if at a campsite --you could create a whole haunted house deal. . . martha stewart has some great books on it and cds for music --try the library

best of luck

2006-09-11 22:49:36 · answer #5 · answered by sweets 6 · 0 0

why not some dry ice

2006-09-11 22:53:14 · answer #6 · answered by erich's mama 2 · 0 0

http://www.halloweenmonsterlist.info

2006-09-11 22:49:33 · answer #7 · answered by electro- hamburger 4 · 0 0

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