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The father, the son and the holy spirit....what the hell is that and how can they be but one? I don't get this theology

2006-09-09 17:07:50 · 20 answers · asked by Koko k 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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This one God however exists in three persons, or in the Greek hypostases. God has but a single divine nature. Chalcedonians — Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants — hold that, in addition, the Second Person of the Trinity — God the Son, Jesus — assumed human nature, so that he has two natures (and hence two wills), and is really and fully both true God and true human. In the Oriental Orthodox theology, the Chalcedonian formulation is rejected in favor of the position that the union of the two natures, though unconfused, births a third nature: redeemed humanity, the new creation.

In the Trinity, the Three are said to be co-equal and co-eternal, one in essence, nature, power, action, and will. However, as laid out in the Athanasian Creed, only the Father is unbegotten and non-proceeding. The Son is begotten from (or "generated by") the Father. The Spirit proceeds from the Father (or from the Father and through the Son — see filioque clause for the distinction).

It has been stated that because God exists in three persons, God has always loved, and there has always existed perfectly harmonious communion between the three persons of the Trinity. One consequence of this teaching is that God could not have created Man in order to have someone to talk to or to love: God "already" enjoyed personal communion; being perfect, He did not create Man because of any lack or inadequacy He had. Another consequence, according to Rev. Thomas Hopko, is that if God were not a trinity, He could not have loved prior to creating other beings on whom to bestow his love. Thus we find God saying in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our image." For trinitarians, emphasis in Genesis 1:26 is on the plurality in the Deity, and in 1:27 on the unity of the divine Essence. A possible interpretation of Genesis 1:26 is that God's relationships in the Trinity is mirrored in man by the ideal relationship between husband and wife, two persons becoming one flesh, as described in Eve's creation later in the chapter. [citation needed] Some Trinitarian Christians support their position with the Comma Johanneum described above even though it is widely regarded as inauthentic and was not used patristically.

2006-09-09 17:20:53 · answer #1 · answered by Dallas M 2 · 1 6

The human mind is unable comprehend the nature of God, but from what I understand, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were one from the beginning. Jesus did not have a body before He became a man. I guess you can say, Jesus was a part of God, but separated from Him, to die on the cross for us.

The Gospel According to St. John

1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

"The Word" is Jesus Christ, so basically Jesus is the Word of God, and "The Word" became a man.

The Holy Spirit was sent down from God, to be are spiritual guide on earth. To show us the truth and to help us in our growth.

So, the Holy Spirit doesn't neccessarily have the body of a man, but Jesus Christ does have a body, this is why he now sits at the right hand side of the Father. So basically, they are still one, but Jesus now sits next to the Father, that he is apart of. I hope you got that :O)

2006-09-10 00:22:16 · answer #2 · answered by Brain 3 · 0 0

According to Christianity, the trinity represents God in the ultimate power position. You have the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (which is a "comforter"). Even though there's three, it's one. Personally, I don't get it either. But then, religion isn't supposed to make sense I guess.

2006-09-10 00:12:29 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Perhaps God revealed Himself as a 'Father Figure' when Mankind was in its infancy and could best relate to a father figure. Then, as Mankind matured (somewhat) He revealed Himself as the Son, a Brother to Mankind. Finally He revealed Himself as He really is: "Pneuma Ho Theos--God is Spirit."

Don't worry that you don't understand the Holy Trinity. After all, the greatest Doctors of the Church have not been able to adequately explain the Trinity.

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2006-09-10 00:17:56 · answer #4 · answered by H 7 · 0 1

God is all. The son is the incarnate of God, sharing mortal existence and serving as an example. The Holy Spirit is the message and the messenger that conveys the thoughts of God to the mortal world.

So, basically, there's the ultimate power, the example of how to live under the rules set by that power, and a guide to help along the way. Because God is 'all', both the son and the messenger-spirit are part of that 'all'.

Another way to think about it is like a corporation (business). There is the corporation itself, which has its own legal existence. There is the Board of Directors, who make the decisions. And there are the corporate officers, who act on behalf of the corp. But when you refer to "the corporation", you can either talk about each piece, or all the pieces together. Rough analogy, but it works.

2006-09-10 00:12:11 · answer #5 · answered by coragryph 7 · 1 2

You CANNOT get it...EVER...! Why? because it's totally INSANE! What most Xtians will never tell you (most don't even know!) is that there were HUGE fights, even wars, when Xtianity first started, especially in Egypt, over whether there WAS a "holy trinity", or just the "father and son" or just the "one God"...like the Coptic church.

They don't believe in the trinity, to the best of my knowledge, nor do many other forms of Xtianity. It's one of the zaniest religions ever. I'm sticking to Native-American worship of wolves, myself. Wolves are beautiful, cool, smart and they can kill you if you get too weak. Also, if I were ancestor, I'd want to come back in wolf form.

Screw the "holy trinity"...it's just designed to make your head explode!

2006-09-10 00:14:30 · answer #6 · answered by Gwynneth Of Olwen 6 · 0 3

The father the son are one the holy spirit is god himself it is a part of him that we received threw Jesus.You must read your bible in order to find truth,god says seek ye the truth and it shall set you free,but you must believe in order to receive the truth you cant have doubt.or you will not get the answers you are looking for.Let go and allow the holy spirit to work threw you to show you who he is. Let go let god.

2006-09-10 00:29:34 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

i believe it means God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit........ and its one cuz it can be explianed as we are all one human but different races,both parents are known to be called "one flesh" even though thier two,so it should be easy for yo to understnd that the father,son and holy spirit are one

2006-09-10 00:13:40 · answer #8 · answered by ♥D@t_bLaSiaN♥ 5 · 0 1

The tri-unity of God. God being 3 in person and 1 in essence. The thing that makes the Father special he has passed on to his Son and his Spirit. Easy to undertand, hard to comprehend for sure, not hard to believe if you believe God is who he is; all powerful.

2006-09-10 00:12:57 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Admittedly, the doctrine of the Trinity is not easy to understand, but I think this doctrine is clearly taught in the Bible. There is one God, but three persons. 1x1x1 = 1.

2006-09-10 00:12:19 · answer #10 · answered by David S 5 · 0 1

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