in which bible ( i heard there were many) does it say that jesus is the son of god and that he is god?

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and has that bible been altered by a certain person or king reverand whoever..if so...why should we believe in it then?

i want historical facts! not a quote from the bible

fr_chuck. i asked therefore i care in learning the truth.

Answer 1

rs p. 405 pars. 1-2 Trinity ***
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

*** rs p. 406 par. 1 Trinity ***
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.


Non biblical quotes showing that Jesus and the bible did not teach the trinity.

Yes Jesus said he was God's Son,

The scriptures used to teach the trinity are contrary to the scriptures. A honest reading of those verses shows that the trinity doesn't stand up to the context.

John 1:1, you can not be with someone and be that person at the same time.
vs:18 no man has seen God at any time.

The Word became flesh, not God. The Word means God's spokeman. God's spokeman was with God, and God's spokesman was the same as God, (God is a spirit, Jesus is a spirit, the angels are spirits, those resurrected to heaven are spirits, Same as does not mean equal or is that one. Same means similiar to)

Col 1:15 Jesus is an image of God.
(Romans 15:4-6) . . .” 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 10:31 when the jews misunderstood Jesus' comment about being one, He used Ps 82:6 earthly, men as gods as a clarification of what he said. He then went on to say they were one in works.

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Answer 2

This is my understanding of it.

The Bible did not fall from Heaven complete in a leather bound volume. It was complied over a lengthy period of time from diverse writings that were deemed by scholars to be authentic. This was a long and convoluted process, the result of which was the book we know today as The Holy Bible.

From the original languages of Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic came the translation into Latin, the language of scholars at the time. Following the Reformation, the Bible was translated into so-called common languages, that is, the languages people spoke at home such as German, French, early English etc. The King James Bible is such an edition, reflecting King James' love for poetry.

Later compilers and editors felt that the emphasis on the poetic aspect made some of the translations inaccurate, and new translations were undertaken. This is why there are so many versions available - Latin Vulgate, Revised Standard Version, New King James Version, The Living Bible, New American Standard etc. There is also the Catholic Douai version, and the so-called Apocrypha, which contains texts and materials that the early scholars did not consider authentic but which some later scholars did.

Translation is a tricky thing. There is nuance and subtlety, as well as popular usage to be considered when making decisions about what a word or a phrase means. Anyone who speaks more than one language knows that some words or phrases are actually impossible to translate literally into another language, so they must resort to a phrase that means either the same or a similar thing.

Word usage and meaning changes dramatically over time, and expressions that are popular with one generation fall out of usage with the next, or can change to mean the exact opposite thing. This is why Bibles are still being reissued with different translations. When you speak about alteration, I believe this is the result of emphasis - does the editor/compiler want to reflect the understood meaning of the original texts, or are they more interested in the literal meaning, or perhaps making the text both beautiful and consistent with the original texts.

So it's not a simple matter of just running it through the printer, it's a massive undertaking that the people involved, like many of the people who read it, are seeking the closest possible thing to the original. I don't think there's any delberate falsification involved, but that's a subject open to debate.

Hope this makes at least a bit of sense to you :-)

Answer 3

. . . .. Jesus is God !! . Isa. 7 : 14 Isa. 9 : 6 Micah 5 : 2 John a million : a million, 14 John a million : 10 John 8 : 24, fifty 8--fifty 9 John 14 : 6--11 11. Cor. 5 : 19 a million tim. 3 : sixteen . . . ____God is a spirit... and a spirit can no longer bleed, so the spirit made a physique ( Jesus ). _Hebrews 10 : 5 _ Now, Jesus is a hundred% God... and a hundred% man___ __ ___As a guy, Jesus hungered, as God, Jesus feed the multitudes. As a guy, Jesus prayed, yet as God, Jesus solutions prayers !!_____ __As a guy, Jesus cried out at an identical time as on the circulate, " My God, My God, why hast thou leaving at the back of me” ___but as God, Jesus stated, " i visit by no skill circulate away you nor forsake you " _ ____As a guy Jesus died... yet as God, Jesus raised Himself from the grave. !! ___Isa. 9 : 6 tells us the son is the eternal Father ! ___Jesus is the daddy in creation ( writer ). Jesus is the Son in redemption, ( Saviour, ) and the Holy Ghost in regeneration, ( Indwelling Spirit ) _ ( Rom. 8 : 11 ). there is only, One God !_____Jesus Christ ! ____ The bible tells us that " without the laying off of blood there may be no remissions of sins "... ___ *** with the aid of fact God is everywhere on an identical time He replaced into in a position to stay in heaven, and are available to the earth on an identical time, interior the fashion of a guy ( Jesus ), sacrifice Himself, extremely people, and nevertheless stay !! *** Wherefore God additionally hath fairly exalted him, and given him a acceptance that's above each call: That on the call of Jesus each knee ought to bow, …Philippians 2:9--11 Thomas called Jesus God, John 20:28 Stephen at an identical time as death called God Jesus, Acts 7:fifty 9 while Paul asked the Lord who He replaced into, right here replaced into His answer, Acts 9 : 5 . "And without controversy great is the secret of godliness: God replaced into appear interior the flesh, justified interior the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on interior the international, won up into glory." -a million Timothy 3:sixteen . The Holy Ghost isn't a 0.33 individual interior the Godhead, yet extremely the manifestation of the Spirit of God ( the writer ), and of the resurrected Christ, coming to stay interior the hearts and lives of all adult men, who would be obedient to the gospel, with the aid of fact the Comforter, Sustainer, and the Keeper ( John 14 : sixteen—26; Rom. 8 : 11 ) . . So There are no longer 3 Gods, yet 3 MANIFESTATIONS of the only God. “ those 3 are one “ ( a million John 5 : 7 ) . . .

Answer 4

The Koine Greek (the original language of the New Testament) says, "In the beginning was the Word the Word was with God and the Word was God." Word is Logos and the God is Theos and it is Theos when refering to the being with God and Theos when refering to the Word.

Jesus is God.
The Jehovahs witness wrote their own Bible in 1953 it is the New world Translation and in this verse they added " a" and then lower-cased "god". But in the original Greek there is no inference for "a" so they added it and then blasphemed. To quote it as accurately as you could it would read something like this, "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with GOD, the Word was the same as God.

My point being this. Unless you are going to read Hebrew (ancient) Aramaic, and Koine Greek. It is all going to be a translation. Hope this helps if not you can get my email off my name.

Answer 5

It is found in all bibles - King James, NIV, Scoffield, and yes many others. I don't know about the Mormon, Coran or other religious doctrines claims. I do know scholars and scientists have been trying to prove the bible wrong for centuries and have been unable to. The Word of God has stood the test of time. Consider this: they have found the bones of every religious leader there ever was with the exception of one - Jesus' bones have never been found and that's because he rose from the dead, do you think a mere mortal man could do that?

Answer 6

Try the King James Version. There is pre-glorification and post-glorification.

The Book of Revelation is all about the Lord after glorification. The gospels are about the Lord before glorification when the Lord still talked of himself as the truth apart from the good of God.

Answer 7

Every Bible reveals Jesus as the Son of God and God in the flesh.

Answer 8

JESUS CHRIST IS GOD! PBUH

Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, "you shall not tempt the Lord your God" in reference to Himself.
Matt. 5:21-22; 27-28; 31-32; 33-34; 38-39; 43-44 - Jesus makes Himself equal to God when He declares, "You heard it said...but I say to you.."
Matt. 7:21-22; Luke 6:46 - not everyone who says to Jesus, "Lord, Lord." Jesus calls Himself Lord, which is God.
Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - Jesus forgives sins. Only God can forgive sins.
Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath." He is the Lord of God's law which means He is God.
Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
Matt. 21:3; Luke 19:31,34 - Jesus calls himself "Lord." "The Lord has need of them."
Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.
Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.
Mark 14:36 - Jesus calls God "Abba," Aramaic for daddy, which was an absolutely unprecedented address to God and demonstrates Jesus' unique intimacy with the Father.
Luke 8:39 - Luke reports that Jesus said "tell how much God has done for you." And the man declared how much Jesus did.
Luke 17:18 - Jesus asks why the other nine lepers did not come back to give praise to Him, God, except the Samaritan leper.
Luke 19:38,40 - Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. If these were silent, the very stones would cry out.
John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.
John 5:21-22 - Jesus gives life and says that all judgment has been given to Him by the Father.
John 5:23 - Jesus equates Himself with the Father, "whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him."
John 6:38 - Jesus says, "For I have come down from heaven."
John 8:12 - Jesus says "I am the light of the world." - 1 John 1:5 - God is light and in him there is no darkness at all.
John 8:19 - Jesus says, "if you knew me, you would know my Father also."
John 8:23 - Jesus says that He is not of this world. Only God is not of this world.
John 8:58 - Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Exodus 3:14 - "I AM" means "Yahweh," which means God.
John 10:18 - Jesus says He has the power to lay down His life and take it up again - Gal. 1:1 - God raised Jesus to life.
John 10:30 - Jesus says, "I and the Father are one." They are equal. The Jews even claimed Jesus made Himself equal to God. Jesus' statement in John 14:28, "the Father is greater than I," cannot contradict John 10:30 (the Word of God is never in conflict). Jesus' statement in John 14:28 simply refers to His human messianic role as servant and slave, which He, and not the Father or the Holy Spirit, undertook in the flesh.
John 10:36 - again, Jesus claims that He is "the Son of God."
John 10:38; 14:10 - "the Father is in me and I am in the Father" means the Father and Son are equal.
John 12:45 - Jesus says, "He who sees Me sees Him who sent Me." God the Father is equal to God the Son.
John 13:13 - Jesus says, "You call me Teacher and Lord and you are right for so I AM."

Answer 9

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

Answer 10

Should say it in all of them!
john 14
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father , but by me.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father ; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father ?

Take these verses back to the original
The meaning is even more clear!