The 17-year old is a girl too, and sex has nothing to do with it. the house is1/4 mile from mum's house in the middle of the countryside,and drugs have nothing to do with it either. It's just wanting to be independent, in a small way. AllI want to know is the legal position , but I don't think the people who answer know any more than I do. It's hard to get trhrough to citizen's advice on the phone, but obviously I'll have to persevere. There should be a category for legal questions.
2006-09-09 08:19:36 · 21 answers · asked by Sian 1 in Pregnancy & Parenting ➔ Parenting
This is my answer on your original question. I have some experience on the subject, so think my reply will be helpful! I told you the legal stuff!
>No. At age 16, yes, with parents' consent. But the parents are still legally responsible until the child is 18 (sometimes 17).
>However, a 15 yr old can live with an 18 year old with parents' consent. The 18 year old must have a notarised letter from the parents, giving them the right to act as guardian. Just write or type out the letter & go to a solicitor. They will notarise it with a stamp. Should cost £5.
>But you will still be legally responsible.
As you say the girls will be living so close, Social Services may let you do it, as long as they know you're keeping an eye on them. Can you send a letter or email to citizen's advice? I know, the phone queues are too much. Citizen's Advice is your best bet. Or maybe ask Social Services for their advice.
Or, wait until somebody turns 16 or 18!
2006-09-10 10:28:07 · answer #1 · answered by Joy 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The answer is that "an individual" under the age of 18 yrs. cannot legally consent to live with anyone. Unless they are 'emancipated', through the court system and/or they have the written consent of their parent(s), with some strings attached...
Anyone under 18 cannot go into any type of contract, because they are not of age to consent to anything.
As for his parents, they are giving their consent to allowing their son to reside with another minor that also should not be living alone... but if CPS was to become involved they could be charged with, Negligence, or Caretaker Incapacitated, which are all of the "Welfare and Institutions" code. A parent cannot just dump a kid off with whomever, for whatever reasons... without the proper steps....they are still financially liable for that kid until he's 18. The same goes for the 17 year old girl....
As well, if she came up pregnant and she will require medical attn. then someone's gonna have to pay for it. Very likely 'society', through the welfare system. That's why they had "Welfare Reform", several yrs ago.... then other agencies will get involved as to why the parents of both kids allowed this to happen. I know they'lle do it anyway. But in the eyes of the court. You just gave it your stamp of approval.... etc...
2006-09-09 08:35:56 · answer #2 · answered by hernandezconley 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No as far as the law is concerned its not illegal.
Needless to say there is a but, and that is the legal guardians must approve it, as at 15 the person in the eyes of the law is a child. (hope that helps) Further to that
Age 14 - a person is fully responsible for any crime they commit and the police can take fingerprints
Age 16 - a person can buy cigarettes • the age of consent for legal sex (including homosexual consent in England, Scotland and Wales; age of consent for homosexual sex in Northern Ireland is 17)
Age 17 - a person can drive a car and pilot an aeroplane
Age 18 - a person can leave home or marry without parental consent •a person can vote • a person can be tattooed
2006-09-09 08:36:00 · answer #3 · answered by keo 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Have found some info for you hope it helps....
Leaving home voluntarily
In most circumstances you can leave home without the consent of your parents or anyone with parental responsibility when you are 16. A parent or person with parental responsibility could go to court to try and force you to return home. However, it is unlikely that any court would order you to return home if you did not want to.
Being forced to leave home
If you are in conflict with your parents, you may feel you are forced to leave home. The legal position in this situation is complicated.
If you are under 16 and are forced to leave home, you can contact your local authority social services department. They will step in if they become aware of what is happening. The local authority may want to talk to your family to see what services it could provide to enable you to stay at home. If this is not possible, the local authority may try to find a relative to look after you or may offer to accommodate you. If you are at risk of suffering significant harm, the local authority may consider taking you into care.
Renting accommodation
If you are under the age of 18, you cannot hold a tenancy. However, you can sign an agreement with a landlord for a licence. Holding a licence means that you have the landlord's personal permission, rather than a legal right, to stay in the accommodation.
Landlords, including housing associations and local authority housing departments, usually require a guarantor before giving a licence to someone under 18. If you move into local authority accommodation after leaving a children’s home, the social services department will often be the guarantor.
If you move into rented accommodation, you may want to claim Housing Benefit. Although there is no age restriction on claiming Housing Benefit, the amount you can get if you are under 25 and have no children is restricted.
Buying accommodation
If you are under the age of 18, you will not be able to apply for a mortgage to buy accommodation. This is because you cannot own property in your own right although it may be held in trust for you until you come of age.
Homelessness
A local authority has a duty to provide accommodation to a young person who meets the criteria for being homeless.
A local authority also has a responsibility to accommodate you under the Children Act if:-
no-one has parental responsibility for you; or
you are lost or abandoned; or
the person who has been caring for you is unable to continue to provide suitable care and accommodation; or
you are aged 16 or 17 and the local authority considers your welfare would be seriously threatened if it does not provide accommodation.
2006-09-10 09:57:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most states have a legal proceeding that allows a person under the age of majority to petition the court for full rights as an adult. This grant of adult rights is based on the maturity of the minor and the minor's need for adult status. This need is based on the minor's living alone or other factors that make it inappropriate for the minor's parents to retain control over the minor. Marriage usually qualifies the minor to consent to medical care, as does service in the armed forces.
The specific California code, is known as the Emancipation of Minors Law.
The code states:
A person under the age of 18 years is an emancipated minor if any of the following conditions is satisfied:
* (a) The person has entered into a valid marriage, whether or not the marriage has been dissolved.
* (b) The person is on active duty with the armed forces of the United States.
* (c) The person has received a declaration of emancipation pursuant to Section 7122 of the California Family Code.
To receive this declaration under Section 7122, a minor must meet all the following conditions as outlined in Section 7120:
1. The minor is at least 14 years of age.
2. The minor willingly lives separate and apart from the minor's parents or guardian with the consent or acquiescence of the minor's parents or guardian.
3. The minor demonstrates to the Court that he/she is managing his or her own financial affairs.
4. The source of the minor's income is not derived from any activity declared to be a crime by the laws of this state or the laws of the United States.
A minor who becomes emancipated has the following privileges (among others):
1. Consent to medical, dental, or psychiatric care, without parental consent, knowledge, or liability.
2. Enter into a binding contract (i.e. buy a car, get a loan) or give a delegation of power (sign a Power of Attorney).
3. Buy, sell, lease, encumber, exchange, or transfer an interest in real or personal property, including, but not limited to, shares of stock in a domestic or foreign corporation or a membership in a nonprofit corporation.
4. Sue or be sued in his or her own name.
5. Compromise, settle, arbitrate, or otherwise adjust a claim, action, or proceeding by or against him or her.
6. Make or revoke a will.
7. Establish the minor's own residence.
8. Apply for a work permit pursuant to Section 49110 of the Education Code without the request of the minor's parents.
9. Enroll in a school or college.
2006-09-09 08:59:07 · answer #5 · answered by Green Alex 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In a lot of states a 16 year old can be emancipated and therefore be considered an adult and can live alone. If the 15 year old is not a relative that has been given the right to live under the 17 yr. old's supervision, the 15 year old might be returned to their home or put into foster care.
2006-09-09 08:39:34 · answer #6 · answered by el 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
At seventeen a person can (UK) legally leave home without their parents permission.
At fifteen they can't... and social services and schools, could get involved.
A seventeen year old is not of an age to be responsible, for an under age person of the same sex, or otherwise.
There are many rules and many grey areas in child and family welfare, if for example, the two were being monitored by social workers and they, had cleared it with the powers that be for them to house share, because the girls were both considered mature in outlook and behaviour for their ages, and if the younger girl continued with her education and satified them that she did, and the older girl was related and responsible, it is certainly possible, they would allow them to continue being independent as a couple.
Since resources are tight these days and so many demands and other needy clients who cannot cope, need more intensive care, they may have such a large caseload, they never chase it up.
But if something happened to the younger girl, the seventeen year old could not be held accountable if the parents knew and approved the situation, since they and social services once aware, are, ultimately the guardians and parents, and responsible.
If say they were sisters, orphaned, or abandoned, and they wanted to stay together and the older girl is working, or studying and mature in outlook, as said above, I think there is a possibility the authorities would certainly leave well alone.
Fifteen is considered very young these days, yet at fifteen I left home, as did my siblings, and we all went to work and we never had help, or advice, from our parents again.
It's odd isn't it, with all your modern technology, with all the promiscurity and fashions and outspokenness of this day, todays youth are much less mature than we were, and stay children longer, way into their twenties, even thirtes... and dependent on their parents, whom they are leaning heavily on, for financial and emotional support.
Yet we, the teenagers from the fifties and sixties, and our parents before us at age 14, when they entered the work force, and their parents at 12, were far more mature, and were both treated, and expected to behave, like the grown ups in the world, we had just joined.
I wouldn't be a teenager for all the money in the world today.
Mother of six, inside their 20s, 30s, and 40s! Five of whom were born before I turned 24... how many of you in here, of this young age, could cope today with five alone... since my first husband died young, of alcohol abuse!
And I went on to remarry and have a late child at 38 and home educate him for seventeen years, as he has Aspergers... and he's been working full time, since he was 16!
2006-09-09 08:41:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Don't know about other question. But I guess in one sense the police would bring kids home if they were under 16yrs. On the other hand if they's no real danger to her and shes keeping up with school and the doors kept open at some point when she realise being independent is'nt what she thought it would be she may come home!! Good luck!
2006-09-10 09:36:45 · answer #8 · answered by sandra+3... 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-09-30 12:37:37 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think it is legal for a 15 year old and a 17 year old to live alone. They are still minors.
2006-09-09 08:24:15 · answer #10 · answered by mommysrock 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋