Americans?????

Question

Are you staisfied with the way your President led you into an unjust and Illegal war in Iraq?
After all the CIA stated and this is FACT that Iraq and Al - Qaeda had no relationship prior to 9/11 and the Iraq war in 2003.

Theres room for nationalism,thats cool.
But in your eyes , do you think the war has been a big mess?
Afterall everyday your soilders are dying and all this for Oil.

Answer 1

I would like to know how the war is illegal. The US had a UN resolution and Senate confirmation. What more did we need? A blessing from the Pope? A fatwa issued by an Imam? What in your eyes would make it legal?

In 2002, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 1441 on Iraq unanimously. That was all we needed. We didn't need a second resolution, nor the permission of others.

As others have said, Al-Qaida may not have been there in Iraq prior to the war, but terrorists certainly were. The former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed by eleven U.S. government officials.

The secret training took place primarily at three camps--in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak--and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000.

And only the most biased person would believe that the war was about oil. Since the war began, our gasoline prices have skyrocketed. I'm paying $3.03 a gallon, and before the war I was paying around $2.00.

Answer 2

I really think only a few are happy with Bush. He was not one of the better ones we have had. I would be pretty sure of myself saying he is at the bottom of the list of good presidents. Or in the Number 1 slot of the worse American Presidents we have ever had.

Whos Laws say it was an Illegal war? Our Laws here in the USA say it was ok. That is the only law Bush has to live by. Your law is of no matter to us. We could change your law if we wanted to. Take your gov down and replace it with one of our own just like in Germany, Japan, Iraq, and many other countries. Makes our law correct everytime.

If Oil was all the USA was after then that would not have been that much of a problem to take. We go in take over the country and bring in the Oil workers and pump that stuff out of there.

Funny huh? We did do just that. We were so greedy that all the the money is going into Iraq not into the USA. The Oil is being sold world wide not just to the USA. It is a shame that Iraq gets the full benifit for the sales when the USA should be paied back for the money the USA spent and the deaths of the people we lost trying to save people that just wants us dead. Might have been better to just take the country down and remove the items we did not want them to have and just let them live or die on their own. Not our problem.

Yes I agree the war is a big mess. Bush really don't have any idea of what he is doing and no one thinks he does. The war should not have stopped till Iran was taken down with Iraq.

But with the build up of US troops in Iraq I would say the USA will have a lot less trouble taking Iran down then it was taking Iraq down. Wait a minute Iraq was no trouble taking down. Humm was easy so Iran will be a breeze. Then we will have all the oil..

Answer 3

What ever the reasons where the truth now is that the number 1 terrorist organization in Iraq is called Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Having said this there is no way we are going to stop fighting in Iraq until the job is done and nor should we. If we left Iraq it would be 10 times the breeding ground for terrorism than Afghanistan was. The Iraqi people wont stand up for themselves and the military is very lacking so the US needs to stick around and wait it out.

Answer 4

@Jim B

to quote your own words " We could change your law if we wanted to".

With all due respect, that is exactly the attitude that has got half the world scared of George Bush. Everyone is thinking 'are we next'? THAT'S why there are more terrorists than there were, your foreign policy is to invade and ask questions later!

General reply:-
while Iraq's leader may have been a murdering sociopath, NONE of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi, but 19 were from Saudi Arabia, yet the US government has never raised this issue with the Saudi government - why not?

This is an example of how the world views Americas' current foreign policy. Protect yourselves by all means - but at least pick the right target!

And just a thought for the more abusive posters in this thread - "FUK", "coward",and "camel raper" are not phrases that make up for being borderline illiterate and incapable of rational discussion.

Answer 5

Ok. First thing is first, I feel that I don't need to say "the war wasn't about oil..." b/c enough people have said it. That being said, there really is no right or wrong reason for going to war. It's just war and our president felt that it was necessary for us to go and preserve our way of life from those who want to take it from us. As far as the "legal" portion of it, we are within the laws set forth by the Geneva Conventions and the LOAC (Law of Armed Conflict). The terrorist are the ones fighting it "illegally." Me personally I think that we should fight fire with fire, by just bombing Iraq and any other country that wants a piece back to the stone age,but since we are better than that we will never lower ourselves to their standards, and we are still beating your "friends" ***. Technically it isn't a war on Iraq, but a war on terror, also. I would like to appologize if my grammar skills suck, but I did the best I could.

Answer 6

the biggest problem with the war was the large amounts of mistakes made. the intellagence was ..um in a word terrible, the troops were not trained for counter insergencey operations, there wernt enough troops, the iraqi army was disbaned, so we have to make a new one, just a whole lot of stuiped problems that could have been avoided. i think the war it self was justified, but the way it was handled was most definetly not. and richard j up there is a pretty big idiot. he's forgeting that we arnt at war with muslims, we are at war with islamic extremests, terrorists, and insergents, that just happen to be muslims. only 1 out of 5 muslims is arab, most muslims live in places like indonisia. the crusades were not a respones to attacks agents the west, rather, attacks on the bysintine empire by the moguls. the bysintine emporor then pleaded with the pope by saying the muslims intend to destroy christian europe, which wasnt true, and the pope called on the european armys to fight the crusades. im 15 years old, and i hate to say it but im a lot smarter the richard j up there.

Answer 7

yes. I'm glad you posed the question in a non-opinionated way. BTW illegal and unjust wars are determined by the winner. When you read your history book in 20 years we will see.

true. I don't recall ever thinking they were connected. However terrorist did live here regardless. We came for WMD and we found some. But not the ones we expected.

No not a mess. At least no more or less than a war would be. Tactics constantly change so we change with them. Democracy and Freedom for the Iraqis which will bring more security to the US.

Answer 8

The CIA report never made any conclusion about an Iraq-al-Qaeda pre-war relationship. This was a conclusion made by senate democrats after reading the report. Al-Zarqawi was in Iraq for several months recieving medical care in Saddam's highly efficient police state. Saddam had to have known that he was there, yet he left him alone. Providing a safe haven to al-Qaeda's #2.

If you still think that it was about oil, then you have done absolutely no research, especially into why the security council failed to act.

Answer 9

The war was not engaged definitely for the reasons given by the American government to Americans and to the whole world. It was to protect and secure present and future interests of Americans ( and maybe including some other added interests). But the Americans had to be convinced and this was done successfully.

But in as much as I personnally do not entirely approve America's actions, and as a foreigner living miles away from them, i admire and am proud of their patriotism and nationalism, the zeal and resilience with which they display that. I may be worng but i feel that their actions are for the long term benefit of Americans, reasons and circumstances of which may be too classified to let out to the public. I see their government as being responsible and mindeful of not just the need of Americans today but of their children in generations ahead.

I wish some other nations emulate them.

Answer 10

I would at least have expected Matt to offer a sensible argument, rather than a tirade of foul mouthed abuse!
Yes the war has been a big mess! But we are there. The least we can do now is to support our lads who are dying! When it should be the politicians.