Why don't we offer citizenship to illegal's if they join are armed forces, and recruit our state pennitentaries? I'd rather have them fight, then some teenager coming straight out of high school.
2006-09-08 17:28:22 · 15 answers · asked by unbeatablec 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Who agree's with the solution? that is my main question.
2006-09-08 17:31:03 · update #1
It is better then 18 YO dying. And why would they kill us? they would kill the enemy, jails give out alot more education now then ever. prisoners arn't dumb, if they get freedom, they'll do whatever they can to get freedom/citizenship.
2006-09-08 17:38:01 · update #2
Loads of badboys cruising about in tanks, carrying automatic weapons. No, I don't see a problem with that.
2006-09-08 17:30:39 · answer #1 · answered by 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Foreign nationals join our military all the time, and it does give them a faster path to legal citizenship. In regards to the penetentaries, joining the military is about service and sacrafice to your country and your comrades. A large percentage of the criminals would be more likely to save their own butts as opposed to taking in a bullet for a team member. Not all, but some. The military doesn't even accept the military or jail time punishment anymore. It wants people who truly believe in what they are doing.
The military is a volunteer force, so those high schoolers want to join. I've wanted to join the military since before I was in high school and now I'm training to be an officer. The military has great benefits, especially for education. For many people the military is a chance to improve their lives, get an education, and/or serve their country. These people do it because they want to and you are saying that they shouldn't be wasting their lives.
2006-09-09 02:21:08 · answer #2 · answered by royalrunner400 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
NO, NO, NO.
Things are bad enough in my infantry company with the softer, more politically correct basic training, and the ever-increasing influx of idiots, without recruiting some idiot who may or may not speak English, and whose ONLY motivation for being in service is to stay out of jail! There is NO WAY with the current restrictions on discipline (no striking of Soldiers, no harsh language, etc) that the project you imagine could work. Not without French Foreign Legion type indoctrination. NEVER.
This also spits in the face of the justice system - you're a felon? A criminal? You earn a "Get out of Jail Free" card by signing up! And you get to be a combatant, where you will be trusted with millions of dollars of equipment and trusted to not steal, rape, or murder from the local nationals. They already DID THIS WITH FELLOW AMERICANS - and you expect them NOT TO overseas!?
This also spits in the face of every servicemember, because by recruiting ex-cons, you are telling us that serving the nation is worth exactly that much - or that little, either or. You don't have to give up anything to serve the nation. Family, friends, home, and expect to stand shoulder to shoulder with people just like you. Now you get to stand shoulder to shoulder with some thug who may or may not rob you blind while you're asleep and he's on guard. That's rich.
And you telling us that a felon is better off dead than some 18 year old kid, both spits in the face of felons and proper rehabilitation of criminals - who deserve to be free if they do the time, not sent back to Dover AFB in a steel casket - and every 18 year old out there fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. Evidently there's no reason for him to be humping his ruck, the rounds, the weapons, because his sacrifice isn't worth it. It's not a job he should do, even though he's given everything in his life to do it well. Now, some scumbag fresh out of the pen can do it. Earn the medals. Earn the honor of being called the American Fighting Man.
Your solution sucks. It's actually insulting and degrading to the extreme. And it will NEVER happen, if the military and voters have anything to say about it. The Roman Empire fell because you couldn't get proper law-abiding citizens to serve anymore, and you hired out military service to thugs whose loyalty was to a paycheck. America doesn't need the same sort of ugly demise.
2006-09-09 02:07:55 · answer #3 · answered by Nat 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why should the military have to except the crap out of the penitentiaries? their IQ alone would drag the military skill levels down disastrously! Not to mention morale. Soldiers are highly skilled personnel, and have to operate sophisticated pieces of equipment besides weaponry. Lets give them a chance in battle not a liability!!!
2006-09-09 08:50:35 · answer #4 · answered by wheeliebin 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Are...you...insane? What's to say that a whole cadre of people who don't like the United States very much join the army and then frag an entire division?
Think about this stuff before you post it.
2006-09-09 00:34:25 · answer #5 · answered by David W 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
That used to be the case, but today you must be a US citizen to join the armed forces. It used to be that people could become a US citizen by serving their 'tour of duty' but not any more.
2006-09-09 00:30:24 · answer #6 · answered by Eli 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Folks, we already have boot camps for 12 year old murderers....why....because there are no consequences to the actions....no electric chair and certainly no military....
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2006-09-09 02:02:23 · answer #7 · answered by masterwitchphd 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the armed forces do recruit green cards holders ....remember the military is high tech and don't want a dumass handling multimillion equipment.....do you really want to give a murderous psychotic prisoner a weapon?
2006-09-09 00:41:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
whoever said you must be a US citizen to join the army is wrong..... you must pass all the physical and mental tests administered to all troops who want to join, be of a certain age, not overweight, no major surgeries.... other than that, if you are from a friendly nation (friendly to the US) and wish to join, you sign the same contract as any US citizen who wants to join... you just go through more loyalty tests... i know.. my platoon sgt was phillipino, and not a US citizen
2006-09-09 00:34:03 · answer #9 · answered by MstrChief55 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Having convicted murderers and other criminals as well as illegals that dont care about this country fighting????
not a good idea
2006-09-09 00:34:37 · answer #10 · answered by knmardix 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋