Or put another way, what gave Nelson Darby insight into things that no real Christian ever deduced in the last 2000 years before he came up with this idea ? The scripture verses of "left behind" only refer to dead bodies "where vultures gather"
2006-09-08 06:15:29 · 15 answers · asked by defOf 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Darby perpetuated the lie that was started during the Counter-Reformation period of the Dark Ages.
Here are some scriptures which paint a very different picture:
Warnings and protection from deceptive teachings
Matthew 24:3 “And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
Matthew 24:23 “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.”
Matthew 24:37 “But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Descriptions and signs of HIS return
Matthew 24:26 “Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.”
Matthew 24:30 “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
2 Peter 3:10 “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 ¶Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Every eye shall be a witness
Revelation 1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
The change to immortality
1 Corinthians 15:50 “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?”
2 Corinthians 5:1 “For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
The righteous meet JESUS in the air
John 14:1 “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
1 Thessalonians 4:17 “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
Tribulation
Ephesians 3:13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
2 Corinthians 7:4 Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation.
Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
CHRIST’S promise
John 14:1 “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
Revelation 22:12 “And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”
2 Timothy 4:8 “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.”
John 6:40 “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
We don’t know when
Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”
Sleep and death
Ephesians 5:14 “Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”
John 6:40 “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
2006-09-08 06:27:42 · answer #1 · answered by Exodus 20:1-17 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
See the verse below for proof that the rapture will happen before the tribulation. (The tribulation being the 70th week of Daniel.)
The Rapture predates Darby by centuries. Jesus spoke about it and the Apostle Paul wrote about it. The church fathers preached on it. Remember, people did not start getting Bibles until long after 1611. Darby, in the 1830s or so, just brought it back to the forefront.
Do a web search on the teachings of Ephraem. He predates Darby by centuries.
Best regards.
2006-09-08 13:47:32 · answer #2 · answered by TubeDude 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Sorry, when you thoroughly and diligently study GOD's word and the entire Church history you will find that NO exact scripture speaks of a "Rapture," sadly it is like "Jehovah;" and every Jew who can read knows that name is far from GOD's! The first mention of a Rapture began with the Assembly of God Church and No one ever stop them from continuing the teaching. If we attempt hard and long enough, we are able to make just about any scripture fit what we want others to believe.
The Bible definitely teaches us to beware of these teachers. Look at how they have grown and melded in with the world, and NO Rapture yet! I say these persons think themselves so special that JESUS is coming to rescue them from any and All last day Tribulation and Suffering for HIS sake. So sad, yet, GOD is not like us. What are they doing so special that they get to go and the rest be "left behind/"
2014-11-26 10:43:40 · answer #3 · answered by Rochelle 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1Thessalonians 4:13-18 and
1 Corinthians 15:50-54
I've looked up these verses and they really didn't say if it was pre-rapture or post rapture.
Becuase 1 Thessalonians 17
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
talks about after the fact, that after going thru tribulation not before tribulation. This verse doesn't even proove that we will be gone before tribulation.
2006-09-08 13:33:18 · answer #4 · answered by jrealitytv 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
There are verses in the OT & NT that write about being caught up.
The verse that convinces me of the rapture is 2 Thes. 2:6-8. And now you know what withholds that he (son of perdition) might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way, & then shall that Wicked will be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
The Holy Spirit is what prevents the mystery of lawlessness from it's power over the nations. When the rapture happens, the dead in Christ raise up first, then those that remain in Him (oil full) will be caught up. In otherwords the Holy Spirit filled are caught up & brought to the ark of safety. This will open up the door to the antichrist to be revealed & rule.
My guess is that it could be Islam who rule by terror. Those who are left behind will have to decide to bow down to the beast & take it's mark or get their heads cut off. Terrorists are the only ones I know that cut off heads today to intimidate others to accomidate their demands.
2006-09-08 13:35:21 · answer #5 · answered by t a m i l 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Matthew 24
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
2006-09-08 13:21:41 · answer #6 · answered by novalee 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Well the bible does not use the term rapture. That is a man made term however, Revelation chap 20 talks about the first resurrectionand the second death. But you have to read the whole chapter.
2006-09-08 13:30:39 · answer #7 · answered by mortgagegirl101 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Here are the scriptures:
Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54
2006-09-08 13:18:42 · answer #8 · answered by Char 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
my cousin and I looked thru the Bible and a concordance, we've yet to find the word rapture. Left Behind series shows bodies disappearing and clothes left laying around, what happens to you when you die? Your body goes in the ground and decays, so why would we think bodies will be lifted up into heaven, I think the *lifting up* the bible speaks of, is a spiritual one, a conversion, a religious movement, either way, we're farther into the Book of Revelation than anyone might want to think.
2006-09-08 13:27:55 · answer #9 · answered by marquita 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
No, there are allegorical parts at the end, but none of them conclusively say anything about the rapture, which wasn't brought into theology until the 1800's but don't tell the fundamentalist Christians. They hate anything that smacks of common sense or the truth.
2006-09-08 13:18:47 · answer #10 · answered by apostate03 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
You can't find any scriptures that talk about the teaching of Rapture becauce the Bible doesn't teach the Rapture.
2006-09-08 13:36:53 · answer #11 · answered by darrell h 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋