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If the answer is both, please explain why faith is needed when there is logical evidence.

2006-09-08 04:44:52 · 19 answers · asked by Xo 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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It depends on who you ask. I, for one, believe that I see logical evidence of God every day. But some other people call that faith.

2006-09-08 04:51:55 · answer #1 · answered by Heidi 7 · 0 0

Hi Waltz #2 (XO)

"Religion is a system of social coherence based on a common group of beliefs or attitudes concerning an object, person, unseen being, or system of thought considered to be supernatural, sacred, divine or highest truth, and the moral codes, practices, values, institutions, and rituals associated with such belief or system of thought. It is sometimes used interchangeably with "faith" or "belief system"but is more socially defined than that of personal convictions."

There are many, many, religions.
I am wondering if your question is ask in reference to God and the Bible. God and the Bible are not about religion. God and the Bible are about the 12 tribes of Israel. Not just the tribe of Juda, which is the tribe that Jews come from. Yes even the New Testament is about that system. Both the old and new testaments message is about God's people Israel and the kingdom of God.

The tribes of ISRAEL. No they are not lost, as many will have you believe
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Reuben = France
Levi = Scattered
Simeon = Scattered
Judah = Jews
Zebulon = Holland
Issachar = Finland
Dan = S. Ireland / Part of Denmark
Gad = Switzerland
Asher = Belgium Luxembourg
Naphtali = Sweden
Ephriam = Britian / Canada / Australia / S. Africa
Manaseh = America
Benjamin = Norway

You see America on the list. Are you of the tribe of Manaseh, you ask? If you are not Jew, and are Caucasian, the answer is YES, or a member of one of the other tribes. But most likely you are of the tribe of Manaseh.
You discovered that there are 13 tribes listed. That has to do with the tribe of Joseph, Ephriam and Manaseh. Long story perhaps you will learn of it some day.

Neither God nor any of the tribes of old practiced religion. Jesus and the diciples did not do religion. Paul did not pratice religion. None of God's true Churches of God which came after the diciples did or do now practice religion. It is about Israel and the soon comming Kingdom of God. The soon comming Kingdom will be set up on this earth, replacing all other goverments.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Pay close attention to answers which you receive from religionist. They will try to bring God into their RELIGION.

Do have a great day. Don't practice religion, or perhaps your fate will be. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Again. Have a great day.

2006-09-08 12:37:09 · answer #2 · answered by popeye 4 · 0 0

Logical evidence.
Blind faith ain't worth diddly-squat.
Romans 10:17 says faith FOLLOWS the thing heard.
So we must hear, think, reason and meditate on something BEFORE accepting it as true.
We must see the logic and reasonableness first.
Hebrews 11:1 defines faith as an ASSURED expectation.
Assured because the person has looked into matters and proven it to himself.
It also uses the term 'evident demonstration' ....evident coming from the same root as evidence.
The word 'faith' simply means conviction.
One should only be convinced AFTER examining it thoroughly and seeing the logic.

2006-09-08 12:05:10 · answer #3 · answered by Uncle Thesis 7 · 0 0

Neither.
Faith, not logic, pleases and contacts God. Logic assists belief and serves ones relation to the physical world.

Faith is not greater belief or even belief without proof. Faith is a human sense and ability gifted by God; which in some respects is like intuition.
Faith has eyes, belief only acceptance.

Looking at the ocean, the mountains the night sky; by logic tells most that there is something greater outside themselves. A glimpse of creation also triggers something inside that draws many to seek answers.

Logic cannot begin to touch the essence of the granduer of creation or the potential of life.

The evidence of human study is beginning to tell that we are emotional and not logical beings. As such faith serves us better than logic.

Religions are not based on faith but sets of beliefs or teachings which need to be accepted. God only sets forward two beliefs. (1) Believe that He is. (2) Believe that He is a rewarder of those who deligently seek Him. That's it!
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(A) Religions are not based on faith or logical evidence but upon systems of belief.
(B) Belief is nothing but mental acceptance.
(C) Religions pervert the idea of belief until the lie that belief and faith are the same is accepted.
(D) Religious leaders then present to followers the belief system as the "affirmation of faith" that is, they say, pleasing to God.
(E) In this manner religions and religious people put themselves between God and individuals and religion takes the place of God.

Religions are neither logical or faith based but exist on belief (mental acceptance) alone.

Scripture says the devil believes and trembles. If belief pleased God, the devil would have been in heaven ages ago.

I have attempted briefly to describe one of the prime religious deceptions of mankind over thousands of years.

2006-09-09 16:12:56 · answer #4 · answered by Tommy 6 · 0 0

There is little or no logical evidence for the majority of beliefs held by the faithful. They seem content to accept the most incredible things on faith.

2006-09-08 11:47:17 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I would say evidence, check this out.


1. There was insufficient time for legendary influences to expunge the historical facts. The interval of time between the events themselves and recording of them in the gospels is too short to have allowed the memory of what had or had not actually happened to be erased.

2. The gospels are not analogous to folk tales or contemporary "urban legends." Tales like those of Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill or contemporary urban legends like the "vanishing hitchhiker" rarely concern actual historical individuals and are thus not analogous to the gospel narratives.

3. The Jewish transmission of sacred traditions was highly developed and reliable. In an oral culture like that of first century Palestine the ability to memorize and retain large tracts of oral tradition was a highly prized and highly developed skill. From the earliest age children in the home, elementary school, and the synagogue were taught to memorize faithfully sacred tradition. The disciples would have exercised similar care with the teachings of Jesus.

4. There were significant restraints on the embellishment of traditions about Jesus, such as the presence of eyewitnesses and the apostles’ supervision. Since those who had seen and heard Jesus continued to live and the tradition about Jesus remained under the supervision of the apostles, these factors would act as a natural check on tendencies to elaborate the facts in a direction contrary to that preserved by those who had known Jesus.

5. The Gospel writers have a proven track record of historical reliability.

I don’t have enough time to talk about all of these. So let me say something about the first and the last points.

1. There was insufficient time for legendary influences to expunge the historical facts. No modern scholar thinks of the gospels as bald-faced lies, the result of a massive conspiracy. The only place you find such conspiracy theories of history is in sensationalist, popular literature or former propaganda from behind the Iron Curtain. When you read the pages of the New Testament, there’s no doubt that these people sincerely believed in the truth of what they proclaimed. Rather ever since the time of D. F. Strauss, sceptical scholars have explained away the gospels as legends. Like the child’s game of telephone, as the stories about Jesus were passed on over the decades, they got muddled and exaggerated and mythologized until the original facts were all but lost. The Jewish peasant sage was transformed into the divine Son of God.

2006-09-08 12:06:17 · answer #6 · answered by mr_kastner 2 · 0 0

the logical evidence is in looking at the glories of nature and the creations which man can enjoy but which he, himself can never duplicate or create himself. the faith part comes in when one believes without being to see with one's own senses THE CREATOR who made all of these things which we are allowed to enjoy.

2006-09-08 11:50:56 · answer #7 · answered by Marvin R 7 · 0 0

Two absolutes:

1. There is no crying in baseball
2. There is no logic in religion.

2006-09-08 11:56:31 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is based on both. I wanted proof. And found after some time of trying to disprove the Bible, that I could not. There was too much evidence.

2006-09-08 11:48:03 · answer #9 · answered by heresyhunter@sbcglobal.net 4 · 0 1

There is no logical evidence in the bible of any other book of faith.that leavces faith only

2006-09-08 11:48:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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