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Christian Churches teach that Jesus Christ is not only the Son of God, but that “he is the very God.” the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one, Three in one, and one in three. They are co-eternal and coequal. Jesus is God, and God is Jesus. That is the Christian dogma, to which the majority of those who call themselves Christians subscribe.

God and Jesus Are They One And The Same?

2006-09-08 03:29:18 · 43 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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St. Paul in his first letter to the Corinthians wrote:

We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified of God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.
1 Corinthians 15.15

In spite of Paul’s alleged belief that Christ was the same being as God, he could not but say God “raised Christ”. If Jesus and God were one and the same would it not have been more appropriate to speak of the operation in the following terms Christ raised himself? If God raised Christ, the two could not possibly be the same being. One was definitely the performer and the other upon whom the operation was performed.

John, the other strong advocate of the divinity of Christ, reports in his
Gospel that Jesus said “Let not your hearts be troubled : believe in God, believe also in me.’ The word “also” emphasizes the distinction between God and Christ.

In the Acts of the Apostles we read:

and he (Stephen) said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God.”
Acts 7:56
The Son of Man, as Jesus preferred to call himself, is seen by Stephen to be standing at the right hand of God. Hence he cannot at the same time be God; and this is a description of a situation in heaven. He is no longer the Jesus of this world described in Hebrews 2 as having been “made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God.”

2006-09-08 03:31:06 · answer #1 · answered by Fourty N 2 · 0 2

Jesus was born with a mans mind and then when He was baptized, and started His ministry, the mind of Christ came into him. That mind and God are the same thing. So God experienced life as fully man and fully God. When you are operating under the anointing then it is Gods mind that is operating out of you in one of the five fold ministries.
Christ is the creative aspect of God, and it was Christ that impregnated Mary through the Holy Spirit. Since the Holy Spirit is Gods Spirit and Christ is the creative aspect of that same God, then in that sense they are all the same thing. Jesus was impregnated by God Himself, it was a creative happening. Then when Jesus was born into the flesh, His life was in His blood and from his father who is God Himself. It wasn't until around the age of thirty that He was baptized by John the baptizer and was filled with the Holy Spirit. He then was as fully God as anyone could be.
When He rose from the grave He was transformed into his divine body and the body that had been killed was transformed by a creative act also. It was like turning the water to grape juice.

2006-09-08 03:43:29 · answer #2 · answered by happylife22842 4 · 0 0

Well, I wouldn't describe the Trinity as "dogma", but let me answer your question this way:

We are created in God's image. Whether you realize it or not, there are also three distinct parts of you, just as there are with God. These three parts currently function as one: You are a spirit - that inner part of you that is literally who you are; you possess a soul - your mind, will, emotions; and you live in a physical body. These are three distinct, separate facets of you that do exist, and yet function as one entity. Usually. If you don't believe it, consider this: Has your head ever told you one thing while your heart told you another? Have you ever physically participated in something, that even as you did it, you knew it was wrong?

You function better when all three parts of you agree, right? When you're doing something you really believe in, then your soul and physical actions are in agreement with your spirit. You just know that you know that you know what you're doing is important and right for you! You also know when something is a compromise to who you really are, but sometimes you do it anyway.

That pretty much explains how "three in one" works with God, except He never compromises or denies who He really is. The Three are continually in perfect harmony and agreement.

Let me say it this way: There are three distinct Persons of the Trinity with their own unique "function", (Jesus the Son has ascended and is seated at the right hand of God the Father, while the Holy Spirit continues Jesus' ministry in the earth today) but unlike us, God is never at odds with Himself or does anything which compromises any part of who He is. These Three are CONTINUALLY united in purpose. In fact, Jesus said His words, His works, His will were not His own, but His Father's who was in heaven. The Scriptures also teach that God was in Christ, working to reconcile the world unto Himself. That's how completely One they are.

Hope this helps!

2006-09-08 03:57:46 · answer #3 · answered by CassandraM 6 · 0 0

No, Jesus never claimed to be God, He claimed to be the son of God and the son of man. i do not believe in the church lie that their are God in three persons it doesn't make ant sense,plus the holy spirit is not a person it is Gods force to get things done.

2006-09-08 03:42:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

On the Mount of Olives to which Jesus fled hunted by the Jews, he took occasion to withdraw from his disciples, and there in seclusion prayed to God:

“Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup from me : nevertheless not my will, but thin be done.” And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him,
Luke 22.42-3

We note here three important things:

1.Jesus prays to God. Jesus worships God. Hence they are two separate beings of unequal status to the extent that one has to pray to the other.

2.They have two separate wills, but the will of Jesus, the son of man, is subordinate to that of God. God’s will must prevail.

3.Jesus, being man, loses heart and weakens, and God Almighty, as the source of all stength, sends an angel to strengthen him.

In the Gospel of John Jesus says categorically:
“For the Father is greater than I”
John 14.28

And finally on the cross:

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, Iama sabachthani ? “that is,” My God, my God, why liast thou forsaken me.”
Acts 7.56

It is clear from the above quotations that Jesus and God are not only separate entities but that their wills are different and could be even contradictory; the superior will must however prevail. What is shocking, however, is the despairing tone of Christ's supplication on the cross. For from being the only begotten Son of God or God we would not expect such weakness even from an ordinary mortal with a trust in God.

2006-09-08 03:38:12 · answer #5 · answered by Translating... 1 · 0 0

No one believes that. Nobody! col 1:15 and Rev 3:14 tells that Jesus was the first of God's creations. The lamb of god was seen in heaven at the right hand of God. all through Revelation
Stephen in Acts 7:55 But he being full of holy spirit gazed into heaven and caught sight of God's glory and of Jesus standing at the right hand of God. That definitely shows two persons.

2006-09-08 03:36:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

yes they are the same. Its the Trinity... The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


Can you explain the Trinity?


Q: "What about the doctrine of the Trinity, the Holy Trinity?"
our A: "Trinity" is a term that is not found in the Bible but a word used to describe what is apparent about God in the Scriptures. The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God. Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration is an egg having a shell, egg yolk and egg white, but this egg illustration shows that there would be "parts" to God, which isn't the case.

God the Son (Jesus) is fully, completely God. God the Father is fully, completely God. And God the Holy Spirit is fully, completely God. Yet there is only one God. In our world, with our limited human experience, it's tough to understand the Trinity. But from the beginning we see God this way in Scripture. Notice the plural pronouns "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 -- Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Though not a complete list, here is some other Scripture that shows God is one, in Trinity:

"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" (Deut. 6:4)

"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." (Isa. 45:5)

There is no God but one. (1Cor. 8:4)

And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." (Matt. 3:16-17)

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 28:19)

Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)

"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)

If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. (Rom. 8:9)

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 1:20)

And the angel answered and said to her [Mary], "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)

[Jesus speaking to His disciples] "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you." ... "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." (John 14:16-17, 23)

2006-09-08 03:34:41 · answer #7 · answered by Heather 5 · 0 1

Muslims say that Jesus is a prophet and he is not a god nor the son of god!! some Christians like Anglicans say that!! most christian say that god is Jesus and Jews say the same as Muslims

2006-09-08 03:32:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Can you explain the Trinity?


Q: "What about the doctrine of the Trinity, the Holy Trinity?"
our A: "Trinity" is a term that is not found in the Bible but a word used to describe what is apparent about God in the Scriptures. The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God. Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity.
Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration is an egg having a shell, egg yolk and egg white, but this egg illustration shows that there would be "parts" to God, which isn't the case.

God the Son (Jesus) is fully, completely God. God the Father is fully, completely God. And God the Holy Spirit is fully, completely God. Yet there is only one God. In our world, with our limited human experience, it's tough to understand the Trinity. But from the beginning we see God this way in Scripture. Notice the plural pronouns "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 -- Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Though not a complete list, here is some other Scripture that shows God is one, in Trinity:

"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" (Deut. 6:4)

"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." (Isa. 45:5)

There is no God but one. (1Cor. 8:4)

And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." (Matt. 3:16-17)

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 28:19)

Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)

"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)

If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. (Rom. 8:9)

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 1:20)

And the angel answered and said to her [Mary], "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)

[Jesus speaking to His disciples] "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you." ... "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." (John 14:16-17, 23)

2006-09-08 03:32:04 · answer #9 · answered by Gigi Smiles Ü 1 · 1 1

I think that the images of the Father, Christ and Holy Ghost are different personalities in God. MPD ?????

Anyway, the Father represents creation, justice, order, the son is Love, Forgiveness, and the Holy Ghost is spirituality, faith.

2006-09-08 04:29:21 · answer #10 · answered by Roberto 7 · 0 0

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