Both Revelation 3:14 and Collosians 1:15 show that jesus had a beginning, that he was not always in existence like god, Jesus was the only one directly created by God himself. Therefore, he is called God’s “only-begotten Son.” (John 3:16), after that he was involved in the creation of all other things. One of the central teachings of the trinity is that Jesus, god and the holy spirit are all co-eternal - having all existed forever, so these scriptures alone prove that that idea is false.
the Bible, tells us that when the earth was founded, “all the sons of God began shouting in applause.” (Job 38:4-7) Angels thus existed long before humans were created, even before the creation of the earth, God not only created these spirits long before he created man, but he also made them a higher form of life than humans. “Angels,” the Bible says, “are greater in strength and power.” And God’s Word explains that man was made “a little lower than angels.”—2 Pet. 2:11; Heb. 2:6, 7.
So angels are clearly not dead people.
Hope this helps.
2006-09-08 06:08:56
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answered by Frax 4
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Revelation 3:14 is speaking about the Amen, the faithful and true witness(that is the Messiah) the beginning of the creation of God. The Most High wouldn't be the beginning of creation of himself. So the Messiah is the beginning of his creation. Therefore, the Messiah was a created being. The First-born. According to this verse.
2015-01-01 13:26:18
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answered by Nina 1
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No that is not what the Bible says. You just like Satan did to Jesus are twisting and misquoting the scriptures.
Revelation 3;14 says 'Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God", not that HE is created. Jesus was there in the beginning with God.
John 1;1-3 says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made though Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Angels are created beings.
Anyone who says they are dead people are mistaken and probably are influenced by movies, or TV.
Any pastor who says Angels are dead people need to repent and teach his flock properly, or get out of the ministry immediately.
2006-09-08 03:11:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Hey, you made me look.
Colossians 1:15 says Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before God made anything at all and is supreme over all creation.
Revelations 3:14 says "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Laodicea. This is the message from the one who is the Amen--the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation: "
Nothing about Jesus being created.
The Son of God existed in eternity as the Word of God, was born of Mary and given the name of Immanuel Joshua, and now sits on a throne on the right side of the Father.
Angels are created spiritual beings. They are not humans who have died, although media portrays them as such.
2006-09-08 03:11:47
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answered by Jay Z 6
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Read the entire Chapter !
First born is a Title meaning Creater of substance
1 COL 15-16[Now] He is the [o]exact likeness of the unseen God [the visible representation of the invisible]; He is the Firstborn of all creation. For it was in Him that all things were created, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, whether thrones, dominions, rulers, or authorities; all things were created and exist through Him [by His service, intervention] and in and for Him.
No idea where you found those facts about the angels
2006-09-08 02:55:08
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answered by williamzo 5
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According to my english dictionary,
Firstborn, means the the first child brought to life.
Jesus as Firstborn, was the first child God created. (Col 1:15)
As Firstborn he then helped his Father create everything else (Prov. 8:30 & Col 1:16)
Jesus said he was equal to the gods of Ps 82:6 (human judges)
which he quoted at John 10: 34, when the Jews misunderstood his comment at vs 30. He then continued to clarify his comment by saying he was God's Son, (Not Almighty God) vs 36. He went on to say they were one in works vs 37, 38 , (See John 17:21)
(Jay Z if you read this, try cross referencing with other translations (NKJV, New American Standard,Youngs Literal Tanslation for example)http://www.biblegateway.com
You do you think Jehovah was talking to at Gen 1:26, himself??
2006-09-08 06:06:22
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answered by TeeM 7
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actually Jesus wasn't created He was here from the beginning he was however born into human form but even then he had already existed the bible says God sent his son not created him and the thing about angels bein dead people is just a cultural myth they have been around since before humans were created and they aren't made in his image Satan himself used to be an angel and he certainly wasn't human
2006-09-08 02:53:44
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answered by Lilli Beth 1
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Christians made up many things depneding on weird interpretations of the bible. If you looked in the bible you'll find that nowhere in it there was a mention of the word "Trinity". They refuse to understand that that "Holy Spirit" is actually the Angel Gaberial (Who's God's creation, not a dead person, nor a part of God), and "The Father" is God, and "The Son" is not a part of God, but his righteous prophet. They're three distinct characters, with God being the creator of the other two.
2006-09-08 02:54:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes.
Jesus is a man, God creation.
Doent matter he has no father, Adam doent even has any father or mother.
Angels is created from light.
And jinns from a smokeless flame.
Human from mud.
2006-09-08 02:54:08
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answered by fadil z 3
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Please copy and paste these Biblical passages accurately, and we might be able to give you nan answer. If you really want to know what the Bible says, then you have to read it!
2006-09-08 02:52:20
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answered by Rude4u 2
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