Sins like murder, rape, theft, lying, etc. make a lot of sense. You are damaging other human beings and making life harder to live, but "sins" like premarital sex and homosexuality do not make any sense. Who are you hurting? You have 2 people who, for the most part, are consensual adults engaging in behavior that makes no difference to the lives of others. So why are these a sin? And I mean a logical reason why these are a sin, not your typical "because the bible said it." It is just as ridiculous as thinking that eating pork is a sin.
2006-09-08 00:48:41 · 21 answers · asked by Alucard 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I always get the atheists reminding me how god doesn't exist. Look, I'm an atheist myself, so I know he doesn't exist. I'm trying to challenge Christian beliefs, so if you are not Christian or have anything worthwhile to say such as "well, duh it isn't because god doesn't exist," please stay away from this thread.
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How exactly is premarital sex or homosexuality hurting god? Is it that every time that homosexual kisses his partner that god gets a little electric shock? Come on, make a rational argument.
2006-09-08 00:57:56 · update #1
....nothing worthwhile to say...
I meant.
2006-09-08 00:58:45 · update #2
And yes, I can have my cake and eat it. All the sins described by the bible except for homosexuality or premarital sex have some logical basis of hurting others or yourself.
CatholicMOM, are you serious? How many kids do you have? 2? Are you gonna tell me you've had sex only 2 times (at most 5 more times given if you failed a couple of times)? How do you excuse the fact that "hurting eachother" by having sex has proven to be good for human health and mental states?
2006-09-08 01:04:01 · update #3
Some Christians believe that God created Adam and Eve with the sole purpose of them procreating. So since homosexuals cant procreate in a loving relationship with eacohter (no sperm donors or surrogate mothers) some feel it is against nature and against God. God never said anything bad about homosexuals nor did Jesus, only when men started writing Laws and Acceptable Behaviors did it become a problem.
Pre MAritl Sex Is considerd a sin because again God wanted a couple ot be in love and procreate. To be Married in a union before engaging in the intrusive and loving act of sex. But this has evolved with the times. I feel you dont know people until you live with them (premarrital) and sleep with them.
2006-09-08 01:09:50 · answer #1 · answered by david s 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
my question is why do people make such a big deal about sex?? i'm 26, i have a 1 1/2 old daughter. i was 23 when i lost my virginity. i am not married to her father. i'm not even with him. yet, he is still the last person i even had sex with. i do not regret my daughter, but i also don't think i was missing out on anything by not having sex all those years. i tend do desire sex more than i enjoy it anyway.
and for those who don't want to look up what the person put as a bible scripture i looked it up....
Now the works of the flesh are manifest,which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkeness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of god.
Now, me, I'm not the bible-thumping type. I believe that you should live your life to make you happy. Not to please other people and that includes the people who wrote/preach the bible. Don't get me wrong, I believe in God. But I do not believe we're all going to burn, just because we do some things wrong. God is supposed to be a forgiving God. I do believe however it's not healthy to try and have sex with too many people. Especially with all the STD's there are out there.
And as for Catholicmom's comment...i agree with the r u kidding??? catholics are probably the most guilty of having pre-marital sex....because they think it's okay to sin and tell their priest ...a few hail mary's, they'll be saved!!! where in the bible does it say that????
2006-09-08 08:18:23 · answer #2 · answered by bored_ass_little_girl 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For those who believe a transcendent being is the arbiter of what constitutes a sin, it is very logical that some aspects of that transcendent being may not be comprehensible to a finite mind.
As to homosexuality and premarital sex being a sin according to the Bible or other holy books, they're viewed as being sin because God declared them sin--that's all that's required to make something a sin. God made man to operate a certain way and when man goes against that way it's a sin whether we understand it or not. God has made the husband/wife relationship a very strong symbol of His relationship with mankind (alluded to numerous times in the Bible) and any messing with that relationship is messing with God and His design. It isn't meant to make sense to an unbeliever and an unbeliever doesn't become any more/less lost depending on their sexual practice.
2006-09-08 07:56:50 · answer #3 · answered by KDdid 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It is difficult to convince someone who is so aggressive towards religions like you but.. let me try.
If you were a believer, I would tell you that definitely God has a wise reason behind forbidding something so even if we can not see it, we should follow his commands, may be later on we will be able to see it. But for you I will just try to tell you about the wisdom I am seeing it.
For extra-marital sex, the occurrence of unwanted pregnancy and birth of children of unconfirmed fathers will never be possible to avoid 100%. This clearly damages the society (as it is already the case in many western countries), destroy families (when no man can trust his wife and vise versa) and produce children liable for psychological diseases and stresses.
For homosexuality, apart from the STDs, if most people were pushed to homosexuality, then we should expect that humans will disappear from the earth in few decades. It is clearly un-natural, have you ever seen a homosexual dog, donkey or even a rat????
Just a fast explanation about eating pork: as a Muslim, I personally do not know the wisdom behind forbidding the pork, but it is enough reason for me (and in fact a source of pride) to follow what my God had commanded me.
May Allah guide you to the correct bath.
2006-09-08 08:12:37 · answer #4 · answered by haggobti 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You cannot ask a question in the religion category and then expect to not get a religious answer so I am guessing that your real question is who does it hurt and why is it bad-
First of all, pre-marital sex hurts the person that you will eventually marry. I am not suggesting that you cannot work through it but if you had several partners prior to getting married you tend to bring some emotional baggage with you. It may not show up on your wedding night but eventually there will be a circumstance or situation where your involvement with floozy types in the past will put stress on your current relationship with your spouse.
As for homosexuality, it is an abnormality. Men and women were created in order to reproduce other human beings. Homosexual people know this is abnormal because no matter how homosexual they claim to be, they always want their lover to look as close to the opposite sex as possible. Homosexual men want to look as feminine as possible while homosexual women attempt to look rough and masculine. They want to attract other homosexual women by looking as close to a man as possible.
2006-09-08 08:03:51 · answer #5 · answered by Joe K 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The definition of a sin is something that is done contrary to the law of God, so that's what makes it a sin.
The reason it hurts people is obvious. Since promiscuity and homosexuality have become more and more common in societies, we have seen an increase in a great number of negative side effects
1. Diseases...which lead to increased health care costs and suffering lives.
2. Teen pregnancy...Do I even have to explain why that is bad?
3. Violent sexual crimes. The influences the sexual advertising and such has on people mentally is causing many mental diseases to include sexual peversion and the opposite...sexual paranoia.
4. Divorce. Since morality has decreased, people are more willing to commit adultery and ruin their families lives. It is not taboo anymore.
Your blindness to the reasons why it hurts people is ridiculous. God's Word is not. So, you can either continue to remain willingly ignorant of the truth, or you can accept the fact that God's law is to help us, not hurt us.
**Update**
"You know God doesn't exist"? LOL!! You can't know that, you believe that by faith. You have faith in nothing and I have faith in God.
For you to know that God doesn't exist would mean that you have infinite knowledge of everything. But let's assume that you know 1% of all the possible knowledge of the universe (a stretch of the imagination by any means). I'll even give you 50%. Do you think that it's possible God exists in the other 50% you don't know about?
For you to say no, would be a stupid display of pride. For you to say yes means that you cannot disprove the existince of God. Therefore your belief system is only of faith and not of knowledge.
2006-09-08 08:02:50 · answer #6 · answered by IL Padrino 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Sex is a gift from God given for the sole purpose of procreation. If you engage in premarital sex, you are hurting each other and God. Homosexuality takes life even further out of the question and is another perversion of this great gift.
Sex is the closest thing we have on earth to experiencing the joys of spiritual union with God in heaven.
Sex outside of marriage is the leading cause of STDs, many abortions, the use of contraception, the high divorce rate--the list goes on.
"Because the Bible said it" is not enough for you? These are God's own words.
2006-09-08 07:56:44 · answer #7 · answered by CatholicMOM 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
LOL
Looking at all these answers just goes to prove where society is heading today. Even if you don't believe the Bible, just look at all the STD's and other bad ramifications of these kinds of actions.
Oh, and by the way, christians don't believe eating pork is a sin, I think that is what the Jews believe.
2006-09-08 08:02:39 · answer #8 · answered by Carpet Shark Luver 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Let me ask you a question when god made Adam and eve he made man and woman so that they can reproduce another generation and that generation can produce another generation and so on. If he wanted two men together he would have made two men if he wanted two women he would have made two women. So with that being said can two men or two women conceive a child, the answer is no also the bible says in 1Corinthians6;13 the body is not for sexual immorality but for the lord and the lord for the body. verse 18 says flee sexual immorality. every sin that a man does is outside the body but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. it goes to say that if you cant practice self control get marry for it is better to marry then to burn with passion. also the bible says in Hebrew13:4 that marriage is honorable among all and the bed undefiled but fornicator and adulterers God will judge.
2006-09-08 11:34:27 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe God puts a rating on sins, making one worse than another. Anything that is displeasing to God is a sin - no mater what human moral beliefs are. It is my belief that if you think about murder it's just as bad as actually murdering someone in God's eyes - so therefore if we think about premarital sex or what ever else - it's just as bad as actually doing it. That isn't easy to understand. I'm just as guilty of being judgmental of others as someone who steals or worse- both are sins. Both need forgiveness. See?
2006-09-08 08:05:12 · answer #10 · answered by Hebrews 11 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋