To christians; do you think this is fair?

Question

1 Corinthians 14

34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

This is what your precious bible says about women and their place in the church.

AND REMEMBER YOU SAY THAT THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD AND SO YOU CANNOT CHOOSE WHAT TO BELIEVE AND WHAT NOT TO BELIEVE.

Maybe I got the interpritation wrong LOL

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Remember this is the NEW SIDE of the BIBLE. Please if you are going to defend this I want to know why? I am a man and am shoked to see WOMEN defend this. It states that it is a shame for women to say something and it is ok for men to say anything.

Answer 1

Oh, don't worry. They'll try to twist it around by saying "Uh, well, that just refers to old times. We're living in new times. But gays are still sinners, so condemn them." Or something like that.

Answer 2

Some others here have given very good answers. This is speaking of orderly conduct in church as someone else pointed out. I will also say that the Bible is the inspired word of God, yes all of it. Let me also say that women are just as important to God as men are.
Ga 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Ac 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
(That means He doesn't hold one person higher than any other.)

There are plenty of examples of God using women for His work. Priscilla preached. She and her husband Aquila were friends of the apostle Paul. The apostle Philip's daughters prophesied. paul remarked on the great faith of Timothy's gramdmother Lois and mother Eunice. These are just a few examples. That being said, the scriptures that you are referring to are specifically to the Corinthinan church. During the church meetings at Corinth at that time the women kept calling out, asking questions, interrupting, and generally being disruptive. They didn't understand things as well as the men because at the time in history women did not have the advantage of education that men had. They were coming into the church with less knowledge than the men due to the societal customs. They were eager to know more, and the meetings got chaotic. That is why Paul set down the rules that he did. This allowed teaching, preaching, and learning to take place. Similar rules would apply in similar situations today whether the men or the women were the source of chaos.
However, it is important to remember that God means men and women to have specific roles. Yes women are to submit to their husbands, not so the husbands can rules with an iron fist but so that he can protect and care for her. Husbands are admonished to love and honour their wifes. Wifes are to be helpmeets to their husbands and vice versa.

Answer 3

Guywiththehir,
i would propose to you that women on the average, in Paul's time, were not educated in what they were hearing at church, and were not versed in the etiquette required to enable the listeners to listen uninterupted. The second part of verse 34 I would say, was possible that Paul still had some issues having to do with the Law of Moses. And this is evidenced by his compliance to Jame's idea of what to preach to the gentiles as is stated in Acts 15, and his compliance with James again (damn it!), in Acts 21.

As verse 35 goes to further illustrate the disruptions of women in the congregation, it says for them to ask their questions at home. Evident that there wasn't much to do with the planning of after church services in those days.

So it seems to me that there was a direction that Paul wanted to sermons to go, that is; without a lot of cross talk. You will find that common in churches today where disruptions during the semons in the sanctuarys unwelcome.

Ask me abut the head coverings? That was traditional also. As you may have noticed, it is not practiced by many these days.

Answer 4

If you're really interested in the nitty gritty, check out this article. It seems to be pretty thorough.
http://www.bible.ca/f-women-speak-in-church.htm
Our "precious bible" needs to be taken in as a whole and not just plucked at when someone wants to use one verse at a time to try and state a noble cause. Don't knock what you don't understand. Do some research.

Answer 5

Yes, it does say this for a reason. It says this about Women in the congregation in relation to the "Angels" watching. It does not do this out of a "feeling that women are inferior, in no way is this true." It does this because God knows that we ALL have our place in the Universal Order, even men do!

#1 is God/Jehovah/Yahweh
#2 is Christ Jesus as Savior and Husband to his Church
#3 is Man as Head of the "Christian Household"
#4 is Woman as her Christian husbands "help-mate"

What this means is that God comes first, then Christ, then the Elders of the Congregation and the Christian Husband of his Christian Wife. Since these are all loving relationships with nothing but love towards one another, there is no reason not to feel secure and loved in such a relationship as this. Christ as Husband to his Bride the Church offered his life, so we should do no less for our loved ones. Wow, who could be offended by such loving relationships?

However, the reason women are asked to cover themselves and remain silent "are on account of the angels." (1 Corinthians 11:10)

Answer 6

Actually I am a Christian woman and I believe this. It is not for a woman to take "control" of a church service that includes men. The husbands are the heads of the family. A woman may be over other women (in group, etc. or children) but not men. It puts the order out of whack.

Any religion that takes what it wants out of the Word and leaves other parts, is doing itself an injustice. The Word of God, as He Himself says, applies yesterday, today and forever. The times have changed for the world, but God's ways never change.

Answer 7

Did you notice that he did not say this to the other churches. He only said this to the church at Corinth. The same writer Paul praised the mother and grandmother of Timothy. So it would be unfair to paint him as disrespectful of women. We do know that the Church at Corinth had many problems including sexual immorality. So it is likely that his intention was for the men to step up and be the leaders which they were supposed to be. In order for this to happen the women had to step back. Now if you recall, Christ said that whoever wants to be greatest must be the lowest. So that really doesn't put women in such a bad position after all.

Answer 8

Yup, and I also believe it to the point that it means that women are not suppose to be preachers, and have their place in church. You also have to remember the times when the Bible was written and we no longer live in those times, look around you does the world look like it did when Jesus walked the Earth? God never expected people to just sit and not advance with the times.

Answer 9

It doesn't sound fair. Although If the Pastor, Preacher, Minister is to lead the sheep on Jesus behalf, it maybe better that silence and listening convey the message of the given word. As did Jesus lead, for the followers, faith in him, listening was very difficult because they had to put trust and faith in him. Women have a superior emotional ability to speak truths, but a higher understanding beyond what was, is a higher truth. Maybe God's word has a higher purpose for man and women to listen to his son. What the disciples experienced WHAT TO BELIEVE AND WHAT NOT TO BELIEVE, just have faith in his word.

Answer 10

The Apostle Paul was writing a letter to the Christians in Corinth. By inspiration what St. Paul wrote was "the word of God". He had heard of problems in Corinth and he was writing to them, telling them how they should deal with a specific problem which they had.

To understand, one needs to know the culture, etc. of Corinth in the first Century. Then we can begin to understand why our "precious Bible" contains such instructions to the First Century Church of Corinth.

If we have problems similar to those of 1st Century Corinth, then probably we should apply that remedy.

Otherwise, we should learn the principles which were being taught there, and apply as applicable in the 21st Century America.

Answer 11

Well seems you might have a little OCD or something.... however read all of 1 Cor 14, its discussing orderly worship. Not that women are never allowed to speak. A little history check on the churches at the time will show you Paul had problems with women calling accross the tables to their husbands and chatting with their friends. He just wanted the chitter chatter to stop.