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I read one of the previous questions: [How does an atheist explain our origins?] ...and once again it left me with this question.

(I'm not an Atheist, but I don't believe in Intelligent Design)

2006-09-07 06:55:32 · 26 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

26 answers

Origin, existence,... or any other religious topic: It doesn't matter...

Theists found the arguments for their beliefs in much the same way that one would argue that carrying a rabbit's foot brings them good luck:...
Not because THEY can absolutely PROVE it,...
...but because YOU cannot absolutely DISPROVE it.

{ IT IS THIS WAY because there is no proof that IT IS NOT THIS WAY }
This type of flawed logic, -placing the burden-of-proof on the challenger which requires proof of a negative-, is the hallmark of fundamentalist theists and, when reversed,... brass-bound atheists.

"In Christianity, neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. Nothing but imaginary CAUSES ('God', 'soul'...): nothing but imaginary EFFECTS ('sin', 'redemption'...). A traffic between imaginary BEINGS ('God', 'spirits',...); an imaginary NATURAL science (anthropocentric; complete lack of the concept of natural causes); imaginary PSYCHOLOGY (...'temptation by the Devil', 'the proximity of God'); an imaginary TELEOLOGY ('the kingdom of God',...'eternal life'). - This purely fictitious world is distinguished from the world of dreams... by the fact that the latter MIRRORS actuality, while the former falsifies, disvalues and denies actuality..."
- Nietzsche

2006-09-07 10:37:26 · answer #1 · answered by Saint Christopher Walken 7 · 2 0

i actually am no longer non secular yet because i'm only a human and that i have not been the following in view that before the starting up of time, i'm prepared to overtly admit that something is attainable. on the question of technology, wouldnt it make experience that if there replaced right into a God that created all, that he might want to also be responsible for each thing all of us know? for ever mutation etc? My opinion is that none people is acquainted with if there is or isnt a God and for every person to run round exclaiming that they genuinely no one way or yet another is insanity. the answer is there may or may no longer be. We wont know the answer till we are lifeless and with the help of then that's basically too late to modify the way we lived so stay proper so if there's a God you may bypass to heaven, if there isnt one, then that's no loss because worms wont care both way

2016-11-25 19:19:35 · answer #2 · answered by mckernan 4 · 0 0

Let me address your reference to the word "facts", as you used. Basically, you have "faith" and "facts" confused. People with a strong faith will state things they interpret from the Bible as fact. It is more a matter of opinion and belief that fact. If a person is speaking with complete sincerity, it will be stated as fact, and those that sincerely believe what they are hearing will accept them as fact. Faith is a powerful thing. To some it doesn't need to be proven, and so it becomes fact.

How did the universe originate? If you listen to the scientific community, the "Big Bang" theory is an overwhelming favorite. But, if all the universes and all life and matter came from something the size of an atom...what caused it. If there was no space or time before that...what was there? Everything that we know has a beginning and an end... but where does space end?
Infinity means that there is no end. How can something not end?

The more science tries to get answers, the more questions there are, but it seems like the answers keep going back to a common start. Something somewhere had to happen.

The scientific community keeps changing theories. The people that hold on to their faith have stood by their "facts" for a long time. The more science does, the more I understand what God did.

2006-09-07 07:30:28 · answer #3 · answered by Vinny78 3 · 0 3

As a Theist, I wouldn't even try. No one knows that... they can say "well, it never had a beginning" etc... It's merely an assumption based on what they want God to be.

I don't believe that a Deity sat down and said "OK, the tree will look like this and it will live like this... and when this happens... blah blah blah" That's definitely not what I think of when I think of "Creation"

2006-09-07 07:58:05 · answer #4 · answered by Kithy 6 · 0 0

Is there really a God? No one can explain it with a solid proof, ever. We can only conclude from what has been recorded in history about the origin of religion and God. I am an atheist and I can't explain its existence without proof, neither can a religious person explain the existence of God.

2006-09-07 07:03:55 · answer #5 · answered by 2feEThigh 5 · 1 1

Theists dodge the question, throwing in some inane "he always existed" stuff, and hoping that the rest of us won't notice that isn't an answer at all.

You can bet that no theist will attempt to explain God's origin.

2006-09-07 06:58:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

You'd be surprised at the many and varied cop-out explanations that religious people farcically call facts. Consider this.

If we assume the universe was created, then it’s reasonable to assume there was a creator. That’s as far as science has progressed today, but just look how far religion has progressed.

Religion states (fact) there was a creator called God, that God still exists, God also created places called Heaven & Hell, God wrote an instruction book called the Bible, God will banish evil people to Hell, God will send good people who follow the Bible to heaven, that people referred to in the Bible (like Jesus) will return to Earth, and a whole raft of other statements of fact. That’s right, religious fact, not assumptions.

Now tell me truthfully, if science doesn’t even know yet whether the universe was created or not, but religious believers state: “not only was the universe created by God, here’s a whole lot more proof and facts to go with it, what do you think?

Either religious believers just have vivid imaginations or suffer from a common mental illness. I think commonsense and logic would suggest that religious believers are mentally handicapped.

2006-09-07 06:57:06 · answer #7 · answered by Brenda's World 4 · 2 3

I am a theist and I don't even care about the origin of the energy that I tapped into when I was in desperate need of help....I just know that it was there.

2006-09-07 10:51:33 · answer #8 · answered by Denise W 4 · 1 1

Most say that He "never began to be, He always was." I'm not sure exactly where in the Bible it says that, but that is usually the explanation.

It is kind of hard to believe, but then again, assuming there was something that created God, who created that something. And then, what created that something that created that something that created God, and so on and so forth?

2006-09-07 07:00:06 · answer #9 · answered by I'm Still Here 5 · 0 1

Apparently, even though everything ELSE has a beginning and an end, EVERYTHING ELSE with no exception... God is the ONE exception. Supposedly it's ok to wrap ones head around the concept that God is always but not ok to wrap ones head around the concept that anything ELSE might be.

2006-09-07 06:57:32 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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