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the trinity was formed at nicea and the Roman Catholic church made the trinity theory the official doctrine of the church. Nowhere in the bible does it say trinity and the council that made the theory was held in the third century, well after the bible was completed. My question is why do so many people take the words of men as truth instead of what the scriptures of the bible say?

2006-09-07 06:53:32 · 16 answers · asked by shawnshawn 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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rs p. 405 pars. 1-2 Trinity ***
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

*** rs p. 406 par. 1 Trinity ***
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

Not only is the word trinity not in the bible, but the idea or teaching in not in the bible.

(Romans 15:3-6) . . .” 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Jesus glorified his God and Father, Let us do the same.

2006-09-07 10:54:17 · answer #1 · answered by TeeM 7 · 1 0

There is so much misinformation about Constantine it's ridiculous. Constantine was never a priest, never a bishop, never a pope, he had no church authority whatsoever. All he did was eliminate persecuting laws from the Roman law books with the Edict of Milan, which anyone can read on line. It says NOTHING about starting any church or doctrines. He made it possible for the Nicene council to convene because he was a powerful politicain turned Christian, and the Church at the time needed that council in 325 AD as badly as she needed Vatican II in 1965 AD.

The council of Nicaea was convened for several reasons, the heretic Arius was poisoning many church members (about 80%) by his attack on the Trinitiy, claiming that Jesus was not all that divine. The council also proved what the church had always been, and clarified roles of bishops, priests and deacons. A majority of Protestants today accept that council as a legitimate council, because to reject it is to reject Christianity.

The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

Please check your bible. It says "in the name of". It does not say "in the names of..." It is not a typo.

The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthew’s Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).

There is no historical proof that the bizzarre Jehovah's Witness's doctrines are found in the early Church.

2006-09-07 07:21:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Have you done any research or study into this subject? It appears not.

Do you believe in "the Antichrist"? Or the "Rapture"? If you do, I have bad news for you. Nowhere in the entire Bible is there a person mentioned called the Antichrist. Nowhere is the word Rapture ever used.

Now back to the main subject. Constantine was not a theologian nor did he dicatate Church teachings or doctrine. All he was interested in was a unified and peaceful world. The only thing he did directly to affect the Church was issue the Edict of Milan. I encourage you to read it. All this document did was to legalize Christianity, not make it the official Roman religion. It also retained as legal all of the existing pagen religions. This order made Constantine's Rome similar to our current United States in that any and every religion being practiced was allowed.

Any real Bible reader, and scripture scholars, can tell you the theology of the Holy Trinity is easily distilled from the scriptures. For starters, what about Genesis, where we see God saying, Let US make man in OUR image. Who was God talking to?

May God Bless......

2006-09-07 06:59:34 · answer #3 · answered by Augustine 6 · 1 0

Why do so many have such a hard time figguring out The Trinity???....

#1. The Father, #2. The Son, #3 The Holy Spirit.

All three are in The Bible. Of course there are those mistaken individuals who do not recognise the Diety of Jesus. So those will not accept any explination.

If you would like my pov on the Trinity you may read it on my Trinity page. Here is the direct link to it:

http://pages.zdnet.com/mikevanauken/outreach/id36.html

All honest seekers welcome

2006-09-07 07:08:08 · answer #4 · answered by IdahoMike 5 · 0 0

The Nicea conference helped put a name to something that the vast majority of Christians believed in, and the Bible describes fully, but at the time there was no good word for. It's equivalent to Webster adding the word "google" to the dictionary.

2006-09-07 07:00:06 · answer #5 · answered by brainy_ostrich 5 · 1 0

I will use the term secular christianity to seperate the organization from those individuals who are sincere in their beliefs and worship.
Secular christianity used the tool of appropriation in their conversion efforts. Secular christianity, specifically the church organization(s) associated with the empire of Rome, found it effective to take the Pagan symbols (the cross, ref. Talmuz), some of the deities (St. Brigid from Brigit - also a triple Goddess, the Keeper of the Fire, for example), and certain ideologies (the trinity = triple Moon Goddess, virgin/mother/crone, etc.) and give them "Christian" meanings and associations, even sainthood or religious membership.

2006-09-07 07:38:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

True, the word trinity is not found in the Bible but several scriptures indicate that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are One.

2006-09-07 06:58:38 · answer #7 · answered by Celestian Vega 6 · 1 0

Do you really think that mere men could ever truly explain the nature of the Living God?
The scriptures of the Bible are very clear that Jesus is God made flesh...read about it in the first chapter of John, for instance.
It is also very clear that the Holy Spirit is also God. Jesus, Himself, is the "Comforter".
"Trinity" is simply a word that attempts to clarify the nature of God...as is "Oneness".
Sort of like a frog trying to explain Friday........

2006-09-07 07:34:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Finally, someone who sees. Jesus constantly said he was sent by someone greater than himself; if he were god there would be no one greater than he is, so he can't be god. And the bible says he is God's son, not god. In Psalms 83:18 (in the King James version of the bible for those who say I'm using a different bible), God says His name is Jehovah. I'm not taking Jesus down at all, Jesus himself said he was only God's son but he was the key to God's plan for human salvation, and that he would eventually be king for a thousand years. But only Jehovah is God.

2006-09-07 07:01:04 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

And, do you know that the concept of Mary, mother of Jesus, was hardly mentioned in the NT, and was of no importance, till the church wanted to convert the people of Ephesus, and the people would not give up their goddess, Diana. So, the church brought Mary in as a goddess concept, to slowly move Diana out and Mary in, and the people to the church. Then, they backed away that Mary was not a goddess, but, a special person.

2006-09-07 07:25:08 · answer #10 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 1

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