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this is it in a nutshell if god is a being of infinite intelligence then when enough of us get into heaven then we will have collective infinite intelligence and when only one more person (or even animal) arrives we will have infinite intelligence +1 collectively and then we will over throw god

but if we all go to hell the same thing will happen and we will over throw Satan and we will make hell into a sinful haven

this theory only applies to one deity religions as multiple gods can't be overthrown

I am sry if this made no sense

If you see any flaws in this idea plz say them

2006-09-07 05:22:57 · 8 answers · asked by jack w 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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There is no +1 after infinity. Infinity can not be defined as a number and it also can not be calculated therefore no amount of souls (no matter how many there may be) would ever be able to overthrow God.

2006-09-07 05:30:49 · answer #1 · answered by Atana 2 · 0 0

Your question is amusing, and I like how your propose your thesis (I'm not looking at it seriously, and just as a game in logic or theology.)

Anyways, there is a flaw with your premise that once you get enough of you in heaven, you will have an infinite collective intelligence.

Even if every single person goes to heaven, from the time the first humans walked the Earth to the end of the universe, that is still a finite number. Large, yes, but finite.

Even each of these people would have an intelligence of finite size. The sum of all these finite measurements exhibited by a immensely large, yet finite number of individuals will inevitably be a finite measurement.

Therefore, such a collective intelligence (assuming people in heaven or whethever "up there" may be can think collectivelly), such an intelligence will be finite. Immensely large, yet finite.

For any immensely large number A, there is another immensely large number B such that B >> A + 1

Also, for any immensely large number X, it will always be the case that infinity >> X.

2006-09-07 05:37:16 · answer #2 · answered by elnyka 2 · 0 0

I am not a theist. That said, do you understand the mathematical concept of cardinality? It's the concept of different sizes of infinity. Here's an example: There are an infinite number of points on the number line between 0 and 1. There are also an infinite number between 0 and 2, but the cardinality of that infinity is twice as large as the one between 0 and 1. According to this mathematical example, the concept of God is, metaphorically speaking, the set that includes all possible cardinalities. God is an infinite set of infinities. You can see this in the henotheism of the Vedic tradition. There are many Gods, but they are all seen as differing perspectives on the one reality. Each is infinite, and they are all still less than Brahman. So monotheism and polytheism do not necessarily conflict, nor does one somehow avoid your argument more than another. Your argument fails in any case.

2006-09-07 05:43:42 · answer #3 · answered by neil s 7 · 0 0

It all depends on who and what you think God and Satan is. If you are just looking for an answere within a certain religeon, then your thinking is too narrow. The whole heaven thing has everything to do whith how you think. It is just like that quote goes. "If you think you can can or you can't, you are right." Meaning, your dominant thought creates your own reality. It's sort of like that joke, where this guy dies, and he is getting led through heaven by Saint Peter. Saint Peter says "there is the muslems, and the lutherans, and the...." all the other people, and the guy that died asks "Who are they?", and he points to a big tall brick wall, with people's voices coming from inside. Saint peter says "Oh, those are the (whoever you are making fun of in the joke) they think they are the only ones up here."

2006-09-07 05:33:48 · answer #4 · answered by Datura 2 · 0 0

the book says that those who believe and have followed the laws of God will reside in heaven and receive the blessing of the Lord.

i dont know of any passage that says that we get to be equals with God.....

the only flaw in this design that i can see, is the hypothesis behind it, in it's entireity.

-eagle

2006-09-07 05:27:39 · answer #5 · answered by eaglemyrick 4 · 0 0

There is no such thing as collective infinite intelligence.

2006-09-07 05:27:55 · answer #6 · answered by October 7 · 0 0

Are you suer that this is a question.

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2006-09-07 05:27:28 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

god is not a person

2006-09-07 05:26:14 · answer #8 · answered by nicole 6 · 0 0

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