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This is not true, why do christians keep repeating this lie.

next time you say it, please say which historical documents so that I may refute your claims

2006-09-07 02:45:15 · 6 answers · asked by gwbruce_2000 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Josephus is now accepted to be fake

2006-09-07 03:08:10 · update #1

6 answers

For full disclosure, I am a recovered christian, an atheist, and an amateur historian

Christians were written about in approx 6 surviving documents (refer to the wikipedia link below)

These documents survived the middle ages because they were kept by the church they were subject to modifications (such as the mention of Jesus as "the messiah" in Josephus, who as a Jew did not believe in Jesus' divinity)

2006-09-07 02:47:17 · answer #1 · answered by JerseyRick 6 · 0 0

Josephus mentions Jesus in an historical document, although he is just mentioned briefly. However, Josephus was not an eyewitness to the Jesus event, and could have been reporting what he heard from other Christians. Another historian also wrote very briefly about Jesus (Tacitus I think, I'm not sure - sorry) and again, he was not an eyewitness. It is interesting to me that if Jesus was all he was reported to be, more historians would have written about him. It appears that Jesus became more important and more well known after his death. Anyway, I hope that helps a little. He is mentioned in historical documents, but at the end of the day, this does little to substantiate the Biblical portrayal of Jesus.

2006-09-07 02:50:44 · answer #2 · answered by Tukiki 3 · 0 0

it is true

the most famous being Flavius Josephus history

see shattering the Christ Myth
http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html

which cites several sourses and says

"We conclude that we find three levels of source material:

Highly reliable sources. There are two of these: Tacitus and Josephus.
Moderately reliable sources. We find three: Thallus, Pliny, and Lucian. For the matter of Thallus, please see also our link in our essay to Glenn Miller's essay on that subject, linked in our essay. (We will look at some objections to the Thallus cite.)
Marginally reliable or unreliable sources. Three are in this class: Suetonius, the letter of Mara Bar-Serapion, and the Talmud.

Conclusion: What To Do with this Information
The evidence is clear: The Jesus-myth is a groundless speculation, contrary to all evidence, and totally without basis. "

2006-09-07 02:47:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The principle is tell a lie long enough and you can get people to believe it. Just about four historical books make VERY BRIEF mention of somebody named Jesus, and scholars suspect those were fraudulent Christian insertions.

2006-09-07 02:50:55 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I'm not a Christian but its actually true, Jesus was a real man, the real question is his divinity.

2006-09-07 02:48:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

they are trying to convince them self that Jesus is not a myth.

2006-09-07 02:59:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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