Christians ...answer plz...??

Question

There is verse in Bible which in hebrew and it says..
"Elai Elai lama sabach thani"

Most of the translators translate this as
"Oh God, Oh God why had you forsaken me"

Christians say that Jesus christ went to cross on his own will.. and said the above lines when he was put to cross..

My question is.. If his own will was involved why did he say "Oh God why had you forsaken me"??

If u translate this verse in Arabic then it says..
"Allah Allah lama tarak tani"

becoz Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages..

And logically "Ellai Ellai" doesn't sound like "Oh God, Oh God.." infact it sounds "Allah Allah whay had u forsaken me" moreover quran says that Jesus Christ wasn't put to cross.. instead an another person was put to cross.. hence he said "why had u forsaken me" and jesus Christ was saved..

Plz no slang language.. i would love to have ur knowledge.. so no abuses... neither to islam or christianity..

Answer 1

Whether its allah or its god both are just different names to call the same creator Since you say that elai means allah why do you say that eloi cant mean god isn't allah another name for god more over all the holy books that are written are just creative imagination of individuals present at that time everyone just follows what was written because its faith Every religion is based on faith and faith alone is the driving force as far as the question of god forsaking his own son goes well he did it for the sins of the world god wanted his people to turn away from their sins and follow his sons teaching

Answer 2

firstly...What the quran says is mute being that it is a twisted work of a twisted mind in comparison to the breathed word of god in the bible.

secondly....the statement made by jesus at the cross was not because of his crucifixion, you need to read the bible to speak on it. He asked god why he forsook him when the sky went black and god could not bear to look on the death of his son. God the father looked away from his son and that was the pain the caused Christ to ask "Oh God, Oh God why had you forsaken me"

Thirdly....not to be too mean but your observation of Ellai sounding more like Allah than God is pretty far out there. Can you give me any English words that sound identical or even close to their hebrew, aramaic, or arabic counterparts. That was a huge leap with no real logical thought in it at all.

Answer 3

Where do greek and aramaic fit into your argument? You forgot about those languages as well. In Greek, God would be Theos, which doesn't sound anything like Allah, or Eloi (not Elai), which doesn't explain why Jews referred to God as ADONAI. Also, Eloi is not supposed to sound like "My God...", that phrase is the english word for what we understand that diety to be, it's not meant to sound like a certain name, just as Theos, Allah, Eloi, and Adonai are all words that can be translated to mean God. Plus, why go to the Koran for resources on Jesus? Yes he may be mentioned in there, but it's not the authority on Jesus. The Bible is. If you want an unbiased source on Jesus, check out Josephus.

Jesus did go to the cross of his own will. He knew that the only way that humanity could possibly be saved from sin was if he sacrificed himself. It's kind of like in the movie Armageddon, at the end when that guy blows up his ship to save everyone from the aliens, except that guy wasn't raised from the dead. Jesus saying "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" was the human aspect of Jesus, because Jesus knew that God had no part in Hell, and Jesus knew that he would have to conquer death on his own. That God wouldn't be in Hell anywhere at all, but that God was in Jesus, and that he would be able to do what he needed to with God's help. I hope that makes sense!

Answer 4

I order for God to win a body via combats with the hells, the Father (the infinite God who was the soul of Christ) was closer to Christ and further away from Christ at various times.

The transfiguration was a state of conjunction. The cross a state of humiliation.

Priestly terms for this are Exinanition and Inanition and then Glorification. So Jesus was glorified after this process of the Father (the infinite love of God) being closer to and farther away from Christ in spirit in an alternating sequence to overcome all temptation to sin.

In other words, Jesus died on the cross and the human was made divine and Jesus is to be worshiped as God just as the Bible says.

Answer 5

First of all: we're talking about religion. We do not know what happened there. We only 've got the bible. Who knows the truth?
I believe that the death of Jesus was a logical consequence of His way of live. First of all: He was a person. He lived out the peace and love He believed His Father truly was. He resisted possession, celebrity, power. This was so powerful, that the people who had the power, believed He was a threat to them, so they brought Him to death. His choice was not to be killed, but not to resist. If He would have resisted, He would have forsaken His project of non-violent resistance. By this act, in His death, He truly proved that He was 'the Son of God'.
God also didn't want His Son to be killed, but He wants the people to convert their lives to the example set by Jesus.
However: did God forsake Him? What we do know is that He was forsaken by his friends... We know that God doesn't want violence, and what they did to Jesus was an outrageous act of violence. God doesn't want anyone to suffer. He is not in the suffering.
But we can not forget that Jesus was a person, and with Him we can ask the same question when we see the suffering of any person. Where is God? We get the answers when we die, and until that day, we guess... and believe.

Answer 6

He did not want to do it, He knew how much suffering and pain would be involved.

"He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done."
Matthew 26:41-43 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter)

But he did it anyway because He loves us so much! When He was on the cross Jesus did indeed say

Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Matthew 27:45-47

They thought he was calling for Elijah the prophet.


"God made him who had no sin to be sin (Jesus Christ) for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God."
2 Corinthians 5:21

And since God cannot be around sin, He had to forsake Jesus at the cross.

Answer 7

The thing is Jesus(his humanity) had never been seperated from God,and all the sins of the world were placed on him so therefore he felt something he never had felt before,which is spiritual death,because he said that the Father(eternal spirit)had Given him the spirit without measure. So once he felt what sin felt like he was forsaken by God as to each of us are apart from God until we are reunited by Jesus Christ. this is the reason why he died and rose again for us

Answer 8

Psalm 22
1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

"Elai Elai lama sabach thani"

Christ teaching from the cross!

Note: All the years Christ taught he always called God Father, this is the only time he used the word Elai or God!

Answer 9

Jesus felt like God had forsaken him. even if we have strong faith, sometimes we still feel as though God is not really there. So we cry out, asking if he is. Jesus was probably crazy and delerious with pain, and I'm sure that you would have been long gone if you were him. I personally Think that Jesus had every excuse to as God to take the pain away--honestly, I would have been asking God for miracles, to make sure that he was there. If all that was for nothing, I would be VERY pissed.

Answer 10

Jesus had lived a perfect life. He had always had the presence of God with him because he had never sinned. While he was on the cross, the sins of all mankind pressed down upon him. He suffered from a spiritual death (ie separation from God) due to the presence of sin at this moment. God withdrew from him and he bore the weight of this sin, pain, guilt, and torment all on his own while he hung on the cross. For this reason, he exclaimed, "My God, My God, why hath thou forsaken me?"

You must also remember that before he got to this point, he had prayed "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." The atonement was very clearly a willing sacrifice.