Challenge for Christianity?

Question

After the crucifiction of Jesus, if there is still need of doing good works and good deeds for forgiving our sins, then the Jesus crucifiction is purposeless. because there was already been the way of pardoning our sins through good works. mentioned in the old testament.

Or if there is no need to do good works and good deeds after believing on the Jesus crucifiction. then it means Christians are free to do crimes and sins.

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Answer 1

nope
your thinking is merely seriously flawed human reasoning and logic.


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Answer 2

Shakur,

You, like many Christians, fail to understand what it was Jesus Christ did for humanity. The gates of heaven were closed to man because of the sin of Adam and Eve. You probably do not believe in original sin but Christians do. Because we are from Adam and Eve (like a copy of a copy) we inherit the sinful nature they had.

When Jesus died on the Cross he opened up the gates of heaven. All of the good souls that did God's will went from Limbo, to heaven. Jesus and Mary started the NEW CREATION. Scripture says Jesus is the NEW ADAM. If you truly want to understand this look up SCRIPTURAL TYPOLOGY.

That is not how Christianity is. Jesus said, "Many shall say, 'Lord, Lord' but will not enter the kingdom of heaven." (Mt.7:21) So, we must do good and do God's will. It is also written that faith without works is dead. This verse contradicts what some of the answers you have gotten.

What everyone needs to realize is that as Christians we must do what Christ did: forgive sins, pray for our enemies, do not return evil for evil, etc.

Answer 3

Shakur, the problem with your statements is that they are based on incorrect premises. But it's not your fault. Actually, the Christianity that is taught and believed in most of Western Europe and America is a misinterpreted version of the original Christianity given to the world by Jesus Christ and spread by his Apostles. The aim of the true Christian life is not to "do good works and good deeds" so that sins can be forgiven, as if it is a legal equation. The purpose of the true Christian life is to follow Christ and to become Christ-like, so that the Holy Spirit - the Spirit of God - will dwell in one's heart and make one a vessel full of grace, worthy of communion with God. This is what salvation consists of, since communion with God establishes the person in true and everlasting life. By dying on the Cross and being resurrected, thus destroying death and the fear of death (which is the power of the devil) Jesus Christ opened the way to mankind to enter into the grace of God by becoming like Christ. There are many challenges to becoming Christ-like, since human beings have an enemy (the devil) who is always seeking to destroy us and we too easily fall prey to his tricks, which lead us into sin. But the challenge is nothing like what you presented in your question. There is no paradox to Christ's crucifixion, and saying that it is purposeless is completely wrong. And saying that Christians are free to commit crimes and sins is also completely wrong. That is not to say that a Christian can never commit a crime or a sin - of course they can, even though they should not and it is harmful to them because it separates them from God's grace. But fortunately we have a good and loving and forgiving God who shows us by personal example how to repent and return to the life that God intended us for, even if we have once fallen - or even if we have fallen more than once. For as many times as we fall, we can still get back up, and God will help us return to Him - if we really want to.

I hope this helps clear up some of your misconceptions about the Christian faith. There are many things about it that are not what you think.

Answer 4

The cross finished salvation. Works, deeds, attitudes, etc. cannot get you into Heaven. They've never been able to. It's always been about faith.

As far as continuing in sin after conversion? Doesn't happen when you allow the Holy Spirit to control your life (which is what Christians are supposed to do). It isn't we who do the good works of Christ. It is He, in us & through us, that performs His works.

Salvation is not, and was never meant to be, a license to sin.

Answer 5

Once we have believed in Christ we are entirely forgiven for all sins, past, present, future. Our works after belief DO NOT contribute anything to our forgiveness.

Our works as Christians gain us heavenly rewards. I am not exactly sure what those rewards consist of, but scripture is clear that they will be well worth any troubles or sacrifices we make.

However, who, recognizing sin as sin, would want to keep on doing them? If coming to Christ has not humbled us and taught us that we are beholding to God for our lives and salvation, and that our sins are offensive to Him and a cause of great trouble to us, then we ought question whether we have believed anything God says about it. After all, God is not going to be fooled if we come to Him and ask forgiveness from Him merely as a ticket to continue to sin.

But all this is really missing much of the point of salvation, which is Jesus genuinely liking us, and wanting us to have a rich, fulfilling life with Him.

And let me tell you, it is far better than I ever imagined, even after 31 years as a believer. Yes, I have had my struggles. Yes it has been hard at times, but it has gotten better every year. I have greater peace in my life every passing year, and went from a very uncaring person to one that cares a great deal about others, and how my life affects them. The best part is having a sense of God's companionship in life, and His tremendous caring fro me. I have seen what could only be His hand at work in circumstances to bring about His teaching in my life. It is the best thing in my life, hands down. I have never found Him unfaithful. In every case it was a failure of my own understanding that has been the source of my struggles.

Answer 6

It is by grace through faith that we are saved and not by works so that no man can boast. As a Christian we do good works because we are Christian not to become Christian.

The forgiveness that is in Jesus Christ is conditional upon "repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ" (Acts 20:21). It is a gift that God offers to everyone, but individuals must receive it by repenting and trusting in Christ, or they will remain dead in their sins. No one has biblical grounds to continue in sin, assuming that they are safe just because Jesus died on the cross. See 1 John 3:4–6.

Answer 7

In the times Christ walked the Earth they had human and animal sacrafices. Jesus died on the cross for our sins, this does not mean we have a free road to sin we still need to lead a christian life. You are just one of many that are playing those word games, it is childish, and immature.

Answer 8

If only it were not for those other commandments that God gave, and that Jesus summed up by saying, in paraphrase, 'Love God and love your neighbor.' Good works is not a means of salvation. Good works is evidence of faith, not a means to obtain faith or justification or sanctification or salvation. Good works come from a good heart, a good heart comes from faith. If the tree is good, good fruit will come from it. If the tree is bad, it will bear bad fruit.

There is no challenge here. We know that we are saved by faith, not works, lest any man should boast. We are called to do good works, with the knowledge that we are already saved. Jesus said: "By this men will know that you love me, if you love one another." If we love Jesus, we will love others. It is hard to commit crimes against others if we truly love them.

Do not be deceived, anyone. This is another of those riddles, which really are not difficult to answer, that are laid as traps to weaken your faith. Continue in your faith, and God will lead you. Know the truth so that you can battle untruth.

Answer 9

Works do not save people, period. However, if someone does have faith in Jesus and love for God, they will want to do good works and follow His commandments. Being a believer is not a free ticket to go out and sin. However, no one is perfect, and that's why we can ask forgiveness, and if we are truly sorry, we can be forgiven.

Answer 10

I have often wondered that myself I wonder too how Muslims can say they only believe in one god but have many other secondary deities that are immortal and could be considered Gods by anyone standards such as angles and Satan. They say there is only one God but have many. Its all very confusing. I think the best thing to do is mind ones own business. Other wise people end up blowing each other up. That would be a very bad thing to do for any religion.

Answer 11

Yes, We are free to sin all we want. Unlike Islam where you are weighed for good and bad. Our God is able to take care of the sin problem, with his blood, (another hard to concieve concept for Muslims).

True Christians will not sin because Jesus said (PBUH?) If you love me do as I command.

We know what he wants us to do - not sin - so we don't
We are saved by grace, not works so no man can boast!!!!!!!!