Did you Know that Muslims are Pagan?

Question

Christians and Jews pray to the God of the Jews, The one true God of this earth, God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, the god of Israel. While the Muslims pray to the false god of the Arabs(Allah) ask any Muslim and to any Muslim reading this answere these questions. What was the God that the Arabs prayed to before Islam?.......Answer= allah its the same pagan god, they have a temple for it called Kabba, and inside the kabba is a large black square box with, and inside the box A IDOL its a very large black stone, and they kiss it, and MUSLIMS PRAY TO THIS IDOL 5 TIMES A DAY, and they kiss it as well when they are there. They stone supposedly fell from the sky, so they worship it because Allah is supposedly a Moon god. Thats why you see Cresent moons on there mosques and on there flags and through out Muslim Culture. So no Musllim we dont have the same god you pray to a stone, that I will one day destrory and I pray to God.

Answer 1

We know! Muslims refuse to believe that Jesus is the Son of God. They believe he was noting more than a prophet. Jesus made the truth clear when he said "He that believeth on him is not condemned but he that believeth not is condemned already" John Ch.3 V18 Note what Revelations Ch.20 V10 states "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever" I would recommend a book titled "Satan is alive and well on the planet Earth" he has no problem deceiving the masses as people will believe just about anything that sounds good but refuse to believe Gods warning about false teachers and prophets. Won't they be surprised on the day of judgment to learn that they followed a cult all the way to hell!

Answer 2

you know, just because you think something, doesn't make it true.

Show your evidence from THE QURAN AND SUNNAH, which is the religion of Islam, not some made up story by some hater somewhere.

The kabbah is THE PRAYER DIRECTION ("Qiblah"). That is ALL and you cannot find anything indicating worship to it or to a stone. When you kiss another person on the cheek, are you worshipping them?? But once again, there is no verse indicating any of the absolutely ignorant stuff you are spewing out.

Answer 3

Christians who acknowledge Allah is the generic Arabic word for God: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html

EL: God ("mighty, strong, prominent") used 250 times in the OT See Gen. 7:1, 28:3, 35:11; Nu. 23:22; Josh. 3:10; 2 Sam. 22:31, 32; Neh. 1:5, 9:32; Isa. 9:6; Ezek. 10:5. El is linguistically equivalent to the Arabic "Allah," but the attributes of Allah in Islam are entirely different from those of the God of the Hebrews as we know. Elah is Aramaic, "god." Elah appears in the Hebrew Bible in Jer. 10:11 (which is in Aramaic, and is plural, "gods"). In Daniel (the Aramaic sections) Elah is used both of pagan gods, and of the true God, also plural. Elah is equivalent to the Hebrew Eloah which some think is dual; Elohim is three or more. The gods of the nations are called "elohim." The origin of Eloah is obscure. Elohim is the more common plural form of El. Eloah is used 41 times in Job between 3:4 and 40:2, but fewer than 15 times elsewhere in the OT.

"Elah is used both of pagan gods, and of the true God"

The above statement makes the claim that "Elah" was used for the True God and also the Pagan gods. The exact same was true for the word "Allah", it was used in a variety of ways too. To make it clear for us lets look at the way we use the word "God" in the modern age. We give the title of god to anyone we feel deserves the praise for whatever reason. Is this 'lending the title of god' a new phenomenon though? I doubt it very much. Elah and Allah are both simply generic names for God.

Answer 4

muslims aint pagan, they are unbelievers
pagan connotes a level of complicity

though muslims say they believe jesus was a prophet, they dont say yeshuah is god come down and lived with humanity (imanuel =god with men)

i have many wonderful muslim friends, who paitently explain how much they love the true prophet jesus and the bible (injeel),,,,trouble for them is im messanic judæistic.....a genalogical jew not a religous jew, that believes yeshuah (jesus ) is messiah.

that said the bible says that if you reject the son you reject the father, it also says if you dont believe that jesus came from heaven
you are a antichrist

that said you have to chose wether you believe the bible or not, as i said before lip service to jesus and bible dont count, a action called faith or faithing is required,, belief in the purpose of the bible and the content

muslims do not,some believe a little of injeel
but a little is not enough
you dont read a tech manuel about the care of automobile and reject the oil change because you dont like it its messy or costly
your auto will melt down if you dont follow the instructions

so it is with islam , if you say you believe jesus and dont do what he says then you dont believe
and in the end fool yourself

your car will burn in hell , so will you
the injeel says no man can serve two masters
your cant follow jesus and muhamoud
you have to choose


othelzer mech,techwright

Answer 5

Did you know you're a bigot?

Each of the main Western religions pray to the same God (Jews, Muslims, and Christians). Hebrew begat Christianity..which begat Islam.

P.S. As far as "praying" to a stone...Better not go to the "Wailing Wall". You might say the same thing to the Hebrews.

Answer 6

I am Muslim and this is the First Time I'm hearing about some pagan statue inside the Kabba--now that sounds downright crazy. I dont know where you got that from.

Trust me, if you want to find a Pagan--go to a Christian or a Cathlic Church. There you can pray to the statue of Mary, or the paintings of Jesus all day long.

Peace

Answer 7

You do know that allah is the arabic word for god, right? The kabba used to be full of pagan idols until muhammad came, trashed the place, and made it his own.

Answer 8

Muslims worship the One God, the God of Abraham and Isaac, whose name cannot be known, though he can be called by any name for the sake of reference. For this reason Judaism, Christianity and Islam are known as the Abrahamic Religions. All three are also known as the "Semitic Religions."

Islam respects all Christian/Jewish prophets and regards Jesus as a prophet too, though not as the Son of God. It also has great respect for the Holy Virgin, who is referred to as "Miriam." (Similarly, Abraham becomes "Ibrahim," Moses is "Moussa," and Joseph is "Yousuf.")

I simply cannot understand where cretins like you get their misinformation and use this forum to create ill-feeling against other religions.

The Religion and Spirituality forum is being misused so badly by halfwits like you that its original purpose-dialog between people of various faiths-has been almost totally lost. Perhaps Yahoo should discontinue it.

Answer 9

I could say that over a billion people have been turned away from God, but I would also have to say that billions of Christians have turned away from God for failing to defend the faith against heresies like the Da Vinci Code or the Gospel of Judas or the Passion of the Christ.

I'm not going to call Islam a pagan religion when billions of Christians are no different from ideological point of view.

Answer 10

Is "Allah" only for Islam and Muslims? - [No! It is for All Three Abrahamic Faiths.]

"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came.

On page one [1] of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen [17] times.

Every hotel and motel on the earth, just about, has a Bible placed there by the Giddion Society. If you look in the introduction, you will find samples of the different languages they have translated. For Arabic they have translated the verse in the New Testament in Arabic from the famous verse in the Gospel John 3:16 -

"For God so loved the world . . . "
- and the word the translators used in Arabic for "God" is the very same word used by Muslims around the planet, "Allah."

Where Does the word "Allah" Come From?
"Allah" comes from the Arabic word "elah" - (Arabic) means 'a god' or something worshipped.

This word (elah) can be made plural (gods), as in "aleha" and it can be male or female just as the word in English can be "goddess."

"Allah" comes from "elaha" but it brings more clarification and understanding.

Allah = Has no gender (not male and not female)
* "He" is used only out of respect and dignity - not for gender
Allah = Always singular - Never plural
* "We" is used only as the "Royal WE" just as in English for royalty
Allah =Means "The Only One to be Worshipped"

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Quran proves - "Allah" is NOT a 'moon god':

"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." [Quran 41:37]

The Christian acquaintance who sent me a copy of Morey's booklet also sent me five questions related to this subject. I will attempt to answer them below:

Question 1:

What is the significance of the crescent moon in Islam?

Answer:

The Qur'ân answers this question before you asked it. Read this verse:

They ask you about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage (Qur'ân 2:189).

Question 2:

Why does Islam follow a lunar calendar?

Answer:

In both the Bible and the Qur'ân religious festivals are regulated by the lunar calendar. Jews and Muslims have kept to these regulations which they believe to be from God. Why does Christianity follow a solar calendar?

Question 3:

Why is the feast of Ramadan marked by the appearance of the crescent moon?

Answer:

I think you mean the fast of Ramadan. God commanded Muslims in the Qur'ân to fast from dawn to sunset during the month called Ramadan (see Qur'ân 2:185, 187). The beginning and end of the month is determined by the crescent (2:189) based on the instruction of God's Messenger, on whom be peace.

Why this method and not another is not for us to say but for God and His Messenger to prescribe. However, I find it an efficient method. It is a universally applicable method, and it allows for Ramadan to move through all the seasons. This allows believers to have the pleasure of worshipping God by fasting in all the various seasons: one year in the summer, some years later in the winter.

Question 4:

Why does the Quran place the Sabeans on the same level with Jews and Christians when scholars have clearly proven that the Sabeans were involved in the moon cult?

Answer:

I am not aware that the Qur'ân has placed the Sabeans on the same level with Jews and Christians. Perhaps you have in mind the following verse:

Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabians, whoever believes in "Allah" and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (Qurpan 2:62; also 5:69).

This verse, however, does not place the Sabeans on the same level as the Jews and Christians except in a particular context. The verse speaks of four distinct communities, and offers all four the opportunity to fear not nor grieve if only they would believe in "Allah" and the Last Day and do right. The four communities are:

(a) the Believers (i.e., the Muslims)

(b) the Jews

(c) the Christians and

(d) the Sabeans.

While they are all offered the same opportunity for improvement, nothing, is said in this verse about the validity of the existing faiths of these four communities. Otherwise the Jews and Christians who are criticized in the Qur'ân for their deviations will not be placed on the same level with the believers. The matter becomes clear when you realise that believers here does not mean saved persons but those who ostensibly belong to the community of Muslims. They, as well as the other three groups, must do the following to be saved: believe in "Allah" , believe in the Last Day, and do right. Doing right, according to the Qur'ân, includes following every teaching of Muhammad.

Questions 5:

Did the Meccans worship the true God since they recognized "Allah" ? Was "Allah" one of the gods of the Ka'bah? And if so, where did the Meccans derive the recognition and the name of "Allah" from?

Answer:

First, "Allah" was not one of the 360 idols which were in the Ka'abah, although Morey has claimed this without evidence. When the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) entered Meccah victorious he went into the Ka'abah and broke the idols therein.

Second, the word "Allah" has been used all along for the name of "God" in the Arabic Bible for Jews and Christians alike. The proof is easy to verify; simple go to any hotel or motel on the earth and look in the drawer next to the bed and take out the complimentary Bible, placed there by the Giddeons and then look on page 5 or 6 where they list the examples of translations they have made into other languages. The second example given is for Arabic speakers. The verse is from the Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16. Everyone knows this one; "For God so loved the world..." and the word in Arabic for "God" is "Allah." Then if you have a Bible in Arabic, look on page one in Genesis, and you will find the word "Allah" fourteen times.

Next, the word for "God" to the Arabs, ever since the time of Abraham, peace be upon him, has been "Allah" and He is to them, the Lord of the Ka'bah (the black box in the center of the Holy Sanctuary in Makkah). He was the unseen God whom they would call upon when in distress. Yes, they worshipped the true God but their worship was not purely for Him. They also worshipped other gods thinking that they would act as intermediaries between them and the true God Allah.

The Arabs know of Allah because Abraham visited Meccah and together with his son Ishmael laid the foundation of the Ka'abah. The descendants of Ishmael retained some of the worship rites and beliefs from Abraham. This included their knowledge of the true God Allah.

Elsewhere we have shown conclusively that the true god, "El" of the Bible is the same as "Allah" of the Quran.

Please refer to: "Yahweh, Jehovah, or Allah - What Is God's Real Name?" by Sheikh Shabir Ally.