if u believe once saved alwys saved then?

Question

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10


do u see that id dosint say that if u are saved u can do these things

and if a peson repents then only his sins are forgiven

Answer 1

I got this in my email the other day:
Question: "If our salvation is eternally secure, why does the Bible warn so strongly against apostasy?"



Answer: The reason the Bible warns us so strongly against apostasy is because true conversion is measured by visible fruit. When John the Baptist was baptizing people in the Jordan River, he warned those who thought they were righteous to “bear fruits in keeping with repentance” (Matthew 3:7). Jesus warned those who were listening to Him while He was giving the Sermon on the Mount that every tree can be known by its fruit (Matthew 7:16) and that every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire (Matthew 7:19).

The purpose behind these warnings is to counter what some people would call “easy-believism.” In other words, following Jesus is more than saying you are a Christian. Anyone can claim Christ as Savior, but those who are truly saved will bear visible fruit. Now one may ask the question, “What is meant by fruit?” The clearest example of Christian fruit can be found in Galatians 5:22-23 where Paul describes the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit: Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There are other types of Christian fruit (such as praise, winning souls for Christ), but this list provides us with a good summary of Christian attitudes. A true believer will manifest these attitudes in their life to an increasing degree as they progress in their Christian walk.

It is these true, fruit-bearing disciples who have the guarantee of eternal security, and they will persevere to the end. There are many Scriptures that bear this out. Romans 8:29-30 outlines the “Golden Chain” of salvation by pointing out that those who were foreknown by God were predestined, called, justified, and glorified—there is no loss along the way. Philippians 1:6 tells us that the work God began in us, he will also finish. Ephesians 1:13-14 teaches that God has sealed us with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of our inheritance until we possess it. John 10:29 affirms that no one is able to take God’s sheep out of his hand. There are many other Scriptures that say the same thing—true believers are eternally secure in their salvation.

The passages warning against apostasy serve two primary purposes. First, they exhort true believers to make sure of their “calling and election.” Paul tells us in 2 Corinthians 13:5 to examine ourselves to see whether we are in the faith. If true believers are fruit-bearing followers of Jesus Christ, then we should be able to see the evidence of the fruit. Now, Christians bear fruit in varying degrees based on their level of obedience and their spiritual gifts, but all Christians bear fruit; and we should see the evidence of that upon self-examination. Now there will be periods in a Christian’s life where there is no visible fruit. These would be times of sin and disobedience. What happens during these times of prolonged disobedience is that God removes from us the assurance of our salvation. Note he doesn’t remove our salvation, but the assurance of it. That is why David prayed in Psalm 51 to restore to him the “joy of salvation” (Psalm 51:12). We lose the joy of our salvation when we live in sin. That is why we must examine ourselves. When a true Christian examines himself and sees no recent fruitfulness, it should lead to serious repentance and a returning to God.

The second primary reason for the passages on apostasy is to point out apostates. An apostate is someone who abandons his religious faith. Now it is clear from the Bible that apostates are people who made professions of faith in Jesus Christ, but never “sealed the deal,” so to speak. Matthew 13:1-9 (the Parable of the Sower) illustrates this point perfectly. In that parable, a sower sows seed onto four types of soil: Hard soil, rocky soil, weed-choked soil, and freshly tilled soil. These soils represent four types of responses to the gospel. The first one is pure rejection, whereas the other three represent various levels of acceptance. The rocky soil and the weed-choked soil represent people who initially respond favorably to the gospel but when persecution comes (rocky soil) or the cares of the world bear down (weed-choked soil), that person turns away. Jesus makes it clear with these two types of responses that though they initially accepted they never bore any fruit. Again, Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount “not everyone who says, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom” (Matthew 7:21).

There are a lot of people who are willing to identify with Jesus. Who doesn’t want eternal life and blessing? However, Jesus warns us to count the cost of discipleship (Luke 9:23-26, 14:25-33). True believers have counted those costs, whereas apostates have not. They are people who when they leave the faith, give evidence they were never saved in the first place (1 John 2:19).

Recommended Resource: Eternal Security by Charles Stanley.

Answer 2

The book of 1 John is the one that answers these questions. You need to understand that people are three part beings, body soul and spirit. The spirit of man is that part that relates to God and when you become a Christian salvation takes place in your spirit. Jesus said in John 3, "That which is born of the spirit is spirit." 1 John tells us that which is born of God (our spirit) cannot sin. So after salvation your body will eventually die and decay, your spirit will ascend to be with Christ and your soul virtually becomes non existent, it isn't needed anymore, and we will be given a new body and soul at the resurrection. Sin that we do takes place in our soul, not our spirit which cannot sin, so nothing you can do will effect your spirit which has eternal life. Your sins in your soul will separate you from your relationship with God and make life miserable for you but won't affect your salvation. (Read 1 Corinthians 7) It talks about the immoral man and says that his spirit will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Answer 3

Being saved doesn't mean just repenting, it means accepting Jesus and changing your life so it is pleasing to the Lord. Too many people believe they are saved simply for believing in the Lord. In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says, "Not all those who say I am their Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. The only people who will enter the kingdom of heaven are those who do what my Father in heaven wants."

Answer 4

it style of feels to me that between those 2 extremes we come across the actuality. the thought as quickly as you’re saved you won't be able to be lost is incredibly unbiblical. i'm able to cite you many examples contained in the Bible of folk who had a saved relationship—they have been spirit-crammed—and for despite reason they grew to become from the Lord, they backslid. Peter places it this way, because of the fact the pig who's washed, they return to wallowing contained in the mire. King Saul became chosen by the Lord, anointed, crammed with the Spirit, yet he grew to become proud and grieved away the Holy Spirit and took his very own existence. Even Judas became despatched out preaching with the different 11 apostles yet he saved clinging to that sin of covetousness until he denied the Lord and offered Him, and Judas lost his salvation, he lost his relationship with the Lord. So there are countless examples contained in the Bible. yet on the different extreme, some human beings think of which you will desire to stroll every day uncertain of your relationship with the Lord. And the Bible is incredibly sparkling that we could have an coverage of our relationship with Him. The Bible says we can comprehend that He who has began a good paintings in us will carry out unto the day of Christ Jesus; he's the author and Finisher of our faith, that we ought to comprehend that we've eternal existence. So even with the undeniable fact that that's untrue that as quickly as a guy or woman is saved he won't be able to be lost—enable me supply you a scripture, Ezekiel 18:24: yet while the righteous guy turns far off from his righteousness, (and it rather is talking some saved guy) and commits iniquity, and does in accordance to all the abominations that the wicked guy does, shall he stay? All his righteousness that he has executed shall no longer be suggested: in his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die. In different words, a guy or woman who became righteous can shy away and that they’ll be lost. Hebrews 10:23, 24, 26, right here Paul says: enable us to hold rapid the occupation of our faith devoid of wavering. (as quickly as a guy or woman is saved, why might they could desire to hold rapid?)

Answer 5

Thank you, im tired of all this once saved always saved stuff. Its a complete lie. thats why the bible talks about the one who is enduring, not endured. Its a continual process. Otherwise what would be the point of living a good life?

Answer 6

you cant just sin because your saved then ask god for forgiveness then go out and do it again. Yes God is a forgivving father. But, just like any "wordly" father, he has his limits as well. God is not an excuse to sin just to repent. if you know your doing wrong and you continue to do it again and again God will say "ENOUGH" eventually!!!

Answer 7

I once was saved, now I'm not -- by choice. Apparently, I'm going to hell. Do I sound afraid? Actually, I believe that I will have a beautiful afterlife, if there is one. Because I actually LIVED what others only preach.

Answer 8

But he didn't say we would go to hell, and who are we to judge gods version of the definition of the above, and many of us must do gods will and become these to help others repent, so what is gods definition of these type of people

Answer 9

I believe when you are saved by Jesus and repent of your sins...you no longer want to sin.

Sin is a choice.

Only God can tell us if once saved always saved.

I choose to follow Jesus Christ and His teachings.

I will not judge others...it's God's job.

Answer 10

Interesting thoughts