Christian thoughts on this issue?

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This question may seen offensive to some, but this just my personal feelings and thoughts.

Why do we keep the lame and sick alive. I mean, someone who is autistic, or has down syndrome, why do you keep then alive. They do not help society in anyway. The extremely mentally ill why do we keep then alive? If medication can help then and allow then to function as regular members or society thats fine. But what about the ones beyond hope, why do we allow to live? Same with the Blind, what function are they going to server, they can't see, what can they do? The Deaf are different they can learn sign language and see, and be of use. Mentally challenge, those with very low IQs why allow them to live.

I believe that every so often there should be a great culling of the people.

These are just some of my thoughts? On the betterment of Society as a whole.

What do you think?

How can I be like Adolf Hilter.
I'm African American.

The Great Hunt, I Like, I Like Very Much

There are few expections, Stephen Hawkin, Chris Reeves, they are a few expection.

REALLY think when you answer this question? What use are they? What are they going to do, to help Society advance? What?

This goes for all, Race does not matter.

I'm not afraid to say, if my child was born with problem beyone repair, or help. I wouldn't want it. If that make me cold, them I'm cold.

Answer 1

I believe we should declare a hunting season on humans. The herd needs to be thinned out.

Answer 2

Oh, how proud your mother must be of you....unless, of course that she raised you to be so selfish and self serving.
It is short sighted- narrow minded people like you that should be culled from society...or at the very least be made to make an effort to do something other than for yourself and spend some time with people with disabilities. I work every day with "those " people and I can tell you that the world could learn a great deal from them. They have a LOT to teach people. They teach compassion, understanding, patience, etc. I spend my days with adults of varying IQ's and physical disabilities and I can tell you right now that alot of them are smarter than some "normal" people (such as yourself, maybe) and they do contribute to society.
The place where I work employs those with disabilities as well as teaches them things that they need to know. Our clients have jobs and work and earn their own money and learn how to spend it.
We also, unfortunatly encounter many people like you when we go out into the community. I hear comments all the time that people say out loud that are rude and hurtful. But it is changing and society as a whole accepts those with disabilities better than they used to and it is getting better all the time.
Racism takes all forms and this is no exception to the rule. I am, however surprised that one of African-American descent can be so hostile toward a part of the community that has never done harm to anyone.
Just because you are so narrow minded and selfish in no way means that those who are less able minded or less able bodied have any less reason to live.
Not everyone on this earth was put here to serve your purpose. I think you should strongly consider actually try being around the disabled so that you can learn to appreciate what you have been given. (Look in your family tree...you probably have someone in your family that is disabled in some way, tho if the rest of your family agrees with you, they are probably in an institution somewhere) Every family has someone that is handicapped in some shape, form or fashion. I suggest you try to spend some time with yours and try and redeem your soul......

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Christian thoughts on this issue?
This question may seen offensive to some, but this just my personal feelings and thoughts.

Why do we keep the lame and sick alive. I mean, someone who is autistic, or has down syndrome, why do you keep then alive. They do not help society in anyway. The extremely mentally ill why do we keep then alive? If medication can help then and allow then to function as regular members or society thats fine. But what about the ones beyond hope, why do we allow to live? Same with the Blind, what function are they going to server, they can't see, what can they do? The Deaf are different they can learn sign language and see, and be of use. Mentally challenge, those with very low IQs why allow them to live.

I believe that every so often there should be a great culling of the people.

These are just some of my thoughts? On the betterment of Society as a whole.

What do you think?

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2 hours ago
How can I be like Adolf Hilter.
I'm African American.

1 hour ago
The Great Hunt, I Like, I Like Very Much

1 hour ago
There are few expections, Stephen Hawkin, Chris Reeves, they are a few expection.

REALLY think when you answer this question? What use are they? What are they going to do, to help Society advance? What?

1 hour ago
This goes for all, Race does not matter.

1 hour ago
I'm not afraid to say, if my child was born with problem beyone repair, or help. I wouldn't want it. If that make me cold, them I'm cold.
Basically it’s not up to you. It’s up to the one whom create you. The Creator God. He and he alone has that right to give life to take it away. How is it that you think you have that power to give life or take it away without consequence?
God made it very Clear.
(Exd 20:13) Thou shalt not kill. (Original Hebrew said Murder: To take a human life with fore thought.)
(Deu 5:17) Thou shalt not kill.
(Mat 5:21) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
(Rom 13:9) For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Besides if one can choose whom will live and whom will die then who knows maybe your next?
It is said Life Is Sacrid
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Answer 4

Everyone deserves the chance to live, no matter what!

Perhaps you should look at how the disabled person is able to affect the lives of others. Think of the parent with the Downs syndrome child, that parent is going to have to have patience, and learn to sacrifice for that child. Think of the impact that child will have on classmates, those classmates will have to learn that not everyone is perfect, tolerance, kindness and patience. From personal experience I know that serving the 'least among us' I have changed, and become a better person. My Grandmother died this year after a 40 year battle with MS. If she'd been culled as you suggest, I would not have the great Mother I have, I would not have been able to help her, and learn from her. Her example of long-suffering, patience, love and faith could not be taught from any text book.

And who is to say what is desirable, or right or better? How do we set that standard? Our society can barely agree that tomorrow will be Thursday. What you think if you had a blind child and some government official said, "turn him over, he's not right for our society?" How is your desire to purge society different from racism, or discrimination? And purging society is exactly what Hitler did. He killed or performed sick medical experiments on the mentally retarded, and physically disabled. Stalin and his communist satellite nations also did this as well.

The handicapped and disabled do contribute, perhaps not in flashy or sensational ways, but they have value and worth. Your views that society should be culled is short sighted and narrow minded.

Answer 5

You should study the history of a movement called eugenics. It arose from the humanist thinking of the "post-Christian" European philosophers of the 1800's and early 1900's.

It held that the learning-disabled, mentally ill, physically handicapped, drug-addicted, chronically unemplyed, criminals, homosexuals, and other social "undesireables" should be culled -- the same thing you are advocating.

In the 1920's and 1930's Hitler used this philosophy as the basis and justification for his attempts to destroy the Gypsies, Jews, homosexuals, labor unionists, and other "criminal elements" with whom he disagreed.

Up through the 1930's there had been a growing eugenics movement in the United States as well, where it promoted forced sterilization practices to keep the "undesireables" from breeding. It was only Hitler's attrocities that caused people in this country to wake up, look at the philosophy and resulting program, and find it to be completely unacceptable.

During the time that eugenics was in favor in the United Staes, it played a significant part in the Ku Klux Klan's arguments that all negroes should be killed or removed from the US. A goal they shared with Adolf Hitler, who also considered the ***** race to be "inferior" and "undesireable."

So be carefull what you wish for -- you may find the local KKK Grand Wizard to be your most ardent supporter. I'm sure it sounds like a good idea to him.

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The eugenics movement, as I mentioned, came out of the "post-Christian" philosophical movement of late 19th century Europe. There is nothing at all Christian about it.

The Christian thought on the issue is simple: All human life is sacred, even if it seems to be inconvenient or a burden to us or is not the life we would want to live if the roles were reversed. Quite simply, we are not God and it is not our decision to make. God has spared us, though he profits nothing from it and we deserve only destruction. King David spared the life of Saul's grandson Mephibosheth and had him eat at the king's table for the rest of his life. Jesus sought out and healed the blind, the crippled, the diseased, the unwanted, the unclean, even the repentant criminal. And He called us to do the same. That is the Christian view.

Answer 6

wow, good question for stirring things up, but i hope you expected this, if not you are an idiot.

It the Terri Shiavo thing. Like why do we keep them alive? Well i don't agree with your examples, lots of autistic people and people with downs can live their lives, albeit not as normally as we do, but they still live. And I think people hope for a cure, and killing them would just be inhumane. I mean, if they are diseased and have a heart condition (as many people with downs do) and are going to die, there's nothing you can do, but what if they're healthy otherwise? Like with blind people, some of them are completely normal otherwise, so what, are you just going to take them into the woods and kill them? just because they're blind doesn't mean they can't fight back, and it certainly doesn't mean they don't have opinioins.

Also, for the people with low IQs, they do the blue-collar jobs, e.g. mailman, contruction worker, etc, or they can find a higher-paying job, or heck even go into performing if they feel like it.

Anways, I'd like to address the society-related undertones of your question. So are you saying if they don't 'benefit the greater good' they need to die? And who would really be helped? Are you saying if they don't help you or someone you kow they are useless? People do not exist to be put to use, like tools. They exist for the experience. If everyone was doing something for society as a whole, there wouldn't be much time to enjoy that society that you were trying to improve. Anyways, people can always find jobs or things for the disabled to do, and if not, the disabled are creating jobs for millions of nurses and doctors across the world. Simply, if we killed all of them, we would put much of the population out of work. Think about that.

Answer 7

Human population is a normal distribution - You have extremes of height, extremes of weight, extremes of intelligence and so on, with the most common values clustered around the average, BUT however much you cull the outliers, there will always be outliers! Do you see what I mean? If you cull the people on the extreme end of the mental health distribution, then you're still left with a distribution with extreme ends. It's like trying to cut the end off a piece of string - you'll always have an end.

Answer 8

Life, Human Life, is very special. The Church teaches us that all life belongs to God and is a gift from God. It should be preserved from the moment of conception until natural death.

Are you familiar with Helen Keller? She was one of the greatest and most talented minds we have known. Blind, deaf, and dumb (meaning she did not speak). Helen Keller was, for a time, the most famous handicapped person in the world. A severe fever at age 19 months left Keller blind and deaf and barely able to communicate. According to your criteria, she should have been "put down" because she was "useless".

Thanks to the patience and perseverance of Anne Sullivan (later Anne Sullivan Macy), Helen Keller was eventually able to communicate with the "outside world". Because of someone helping her she became an excellent student and eventually attended Radcliffe College, where she graduated with honors in 1904. While at Radcliffe she wrote an autobiography, The Story of My Life (1902), which made her famous. (Her many later books included The World I Live In (1908), Out of the Dark (1913), and 1938's Helen Keller's Journal.)

How many other "Helen Kellers" are out there? How many would we have you kill off and make the world a lesser place for us all?
As unpopular as this may be, this same question could apply to abortion as well. Has another Albert Einstein or Mark Twain been aborted, to the detriment of society as a whole?

Answer 9

You think we all live to serve society? You fail to realize that each human life has a purpose for the Soul that inhabits the body. It has nothing to do with society. It's all karma. We all reap the consequences of our actions. If they are not paid in one life, it carries over to the next life. Some of these consequences are diseases, disabilities, and so on. They occur to teach the Soul compassion, patience, strength, courage, acceptance, and so on. They give the Soul the experience to learn the lessons to grow as a human being. Also you fail to truly see the big picture for each one of these persons that have disabilities because your vision is so limited to what you see in front of you rather than seeing the Divine plan for each one of them.

Careful what you think and feel about this topic. If you truly have no compassion for those who have imperfections, in your next life you could be living as one that has imperfections in order to teach you what it is like, to teach you to have compassion, and so on.

Why do you have no acceptance for imperfections in people? It's laugh because you yourself display an imperfection in your perceptions of people right now. Don't go around making judgments like that if you yourself cannot be 100% perfect. First become 100% perfect then you can judge.

Why see people for what they are on the outside placing too much importance on the body? When in actuality we are not the body. The body did not exist before we were born, and nor will our body exist after we die. Our body turns to ashes, but our Soul has always existed before, now and will continue to exist eternally.

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." The Bhagavad Gita, Ch.2, v.20

Answer 10

Do you personally know any people with Down syndrome or people who have autism that you can base your outlandish statement of "They do not help society in any way?" I beg your pardon, but people with Down syndrome do function very well in society. They attend school, hold down jobs (and no, not just bagging groceries, although there is nothing wrong with that), they can learn to drive, they can marry. Many are artists or musicians, etc. And they also bring a tremendous amount of joy and love to the people who know them. My son has Down syndrome and I do not believe for one minute that you could observe him for a day and think that he should not be alive. He is the most amazing child and does pretty much what any other child does, it just takes him a little bit longer to do some things.

God made everyone "in HIS image" and when I look at my son, I see God's handywork and feel truly blessed that He entrusted him to me and my husband.

One woman put it quite nicely on her website when she says:

"Here's the situation. Moses is at the burning bush. God wants him to go to Pharaoh, and Moses begins making excuses. "Then Moses said to the Lord, "Please, Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently, nor in time past, nor since Thou hast spoken to Thy servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue." And the Lord said to him, "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes him dumb or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord? Now then go, and I, even I, will be with your mouth, and teach you what you are to say." Exodus 4:10-12"

This is an excerpt from http://www.einstein-syndrome.com/inspiration/God_cares.htm

If you really believe the statements you made, you are very shortsighted indeed. I can look around and see many supposedly "normal" people who are a huge drain on society. Not to mention the fact that you are applying your standards of what you think is acceptable. Suppose someone else thinks you don't contribute a thing to society because of your narrowmindedness and lack of compassion? Should you be kept alive?

The fact is, God is the Creator and the Judge. You don't get to make that decision, and I'm thankful for that. Perhaps you should take some time to actually get to know people who live with and overcome challenges. You might find you change your mind.

Answer 11

To better society I think you should be one of the first that we cull out. That is so horrible. They want to live just like you do.
Every living thing values its life as much as you do.
So they can't be a rocket scientist. My mon use to work in a nursing home with mentally challenged adults who were so nice and sweet. Some with downs syndrome. They are a lot nicer than so called normal people. They don't lie and try to hurt others. They don't strap on a bomb and blow people up.
They don't go to war and kill people. They don't rob banks or molest children. They are loving and kind.
What about Helen Keller? blind and deaf. What would you have done with her. You are so much more mentally challenged than they are it is just pitiful.