why is jui jitsu not as affective in mma as bjj?

Question

im sure its all spelt correct, im asking why regular japanese ju jitsu isnt as affective as its brazilian counterpart

Answer 1

A martial art is only as effective as the student employing it. Students are given the tools (system), and they then develop a style of their own from that point.
This question, as the other one of yours I answered, is asking the reader to assume quite a bit that isn't necessarily true.
By "MMA", I can only imagine you mean in combat sporting events. That being the case, I will offer that BJJ emphasizes more ground fighting rather than standing grappling, and those pay-per-view matches cater to the ground fighter.
You do realize that those matches are not representative of a real fight, correct? Think about like extreme boxing; rules are in place to protect the participants.
Besides, you aren't likely to see two hot sweaty dudes in speedos rolling around on the street together to settle a score...

Answer 2

Lot of good answers. Jitsu is the precursor. Judo, paired down and organized version. I believe the story goes the jitsu was banished for a while as it was too violent, had a come back. The Japanese police had a contest between Judo and Jiu jitsu to see what they would learn. Judo won. Is Jiu jitsu has some strikes, lots of grappling, ground work, breaks, locks, and such. Judo is more focused on a defined number of locks and throws. It is also an olympic sport. As far as street worthy... that depends on the teacher and on the student. I have met folks who you would not mess with and others... yep, no problem at all.

Answer 3

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Gracie Jiu Jitsu as it is also known as, Is almost a completely different art to traditional Jiu Jitsu. The Gracie family studied traditional japanese jiu jitsu and adapted it to form their own style. People have to now use the term "brazilian jiu-jitsu" to stop themselves being sued by the gracie family who have trademarked the name. It was, and is so effective because it was developed through many actual vale tudo and closed door fights. It is therefore a style much more suited to mma rules which for a start dont allow small joint manipulation, a fundamental part of traditional jiu jitsu.

Answer 4

I can't say that I have seen enough matches to confidently determine that BJJ really is better than traditional JJ. One thing I do notice is that the traditional guys still like to wear their Gi's and this is a disadvantage. They can be submitted by not only locks but also lapel chokes, be blinded from the gi getting in the way, and they are thick and super hot. Try to grab a sweaty BJJ fighter. It is much harder to do.
When I did Jiu Jitsu, we did focus on chokes but also on lapel chokes (using the gi collar to choke for submission). Since most of the BJJ guys don't normally use gi's for matches, I am guessing that they spend more time on various locks and submissions than a traditional Jiu Jitsu person.

And to clarify things a little, Judo is the sport form derived FROM Jiu Jitsu by Dr. Jigoro Kano. Jiu Jitsu did not come from Judo

Answer 5

because jiu-jitsu was designed for self defence(the last defence a samurai would have after the bow and katana).Jiu-jitsu has various techniques that are deadly such as attack to the privates or the collar bone it includes lots of bone breaking ......basically it was designed to quickly kill the opponent and continue fighting the other soldiers.
Brazilian jiu-jitsu was designed to show the world that it was the best well rounded martial art in the world all though not the same jiu-jitsu is a lot more brutal than bjj.
Don't get me wrong bjj is very effective and stamina demanding

Answer 6

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) is a very effective art refering to ground work, and using positions like 'the guard' for example. BJJ is a good all round art, but lacks stand up skills compared to other grappling arts. I am not dissing BJJ here... because most fights end on the ground, making BJJ an effective art to win by a submission hold!!

The standard Japanese Jujitsu is more of a realistic self defence system and their are many different variations of it to. It is more about keeping control of your opponent and 're-arranging' what they do into an effective keylock or hold, or using a certain pressure points when needed... as an example. They could also use tactics which would not be allowed in MMA competition... like gaugung, or even biting!!!!!

When you look at it this way... BJJ is more designed for No Holds Barred (NHB) or Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) competition. However, it doesnt mean that a standard Japanese Jujitsu fighter wont do well though in MMA.


You must remember that BJJ, thanks to Vale Tudo competitions, managed to utilise their skills with wrestling and striking (boxing) techniques. Also note that BJJ started thanks to Mitsuya Maeda... who practised many styles around the world!!! The main arts were jujitsu, judo and catch-as-catch-can. This is the guy that trained Gastão son... Carlos Gracie. Carlos passed his knowledge to other gracie family members and declared their own style (BJJ or also known as Gracie Jiu-Jitsu), etcetcetc


In my opinion... it is not down to the style... it is down to the fighter. I practice many styles which I belive are effective in real world scenarios. BJJ is one of my styles... but it isnt enough today to succeed in MMA or even in street fights.

People in MMA are soooo well rounded... you have to concentrate on stand up as well as striking and ground work!!

Learn as much as you can... from many styles is my motto!!

All the best!!

Answer 7

Maybe it is because there is not one out there who feels the need to go into the mma. Any martial art is good as the practitioner puts into it. Take the Gracies for instance, they are a family of fighters who was raised by their father. When you have the best in the business as your father you can capitlize on his experience to enforce your arsenal.

Answer 8

Its because BJJ is the main style of fighting that they focus on. It was derived from Vale Tudo which is a more street style of fighting that was a way of life in Brazil, especially in Rio. Meanwhile JJ in Japan is an evolution of various other forms of martial arts. Karate, Wing Chun, Kung Fu etc, and ground work was adapted later.

Answer 9

Because you or who ever is applying themselves to it is not committed to and not applying it like they should. So there for it is not affective to you. But when you have more self discipline and willingness to do it. Then and only then will it be affective as mam bu. Jui Jitsu is as affective when applying self discipline and willingness. Be willing to go all the way

Answer 10

Wow, nobody actually got it.

BJJ was derived from Judo. The techniques used in Judo often were less stable and required more strength to overcome your opponent. BJJ utilizes leverage advantages to overcome and opponent who maybe larger. Theres also rules in MMA fights that make BJJ more effective (no heabutting, biting, kicking grounded opponents.).