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if we let people into this country and they do not integrate but keep separate from the rest of us, and though they benefit in many ways from being here..refuse to accept the norms and standards we adhere to....should we refuse entry to those following in their footsteps?

2006-09-06 10:21:48 · 35 answers · asked by catweazle 5 in Politics & Government Immigration

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Absobloodylutely.... ive lived in muslim countries and we were never advised to shout about the fact that we had different cultures. I got spat at in the street by locals and put down because I was white, female, single and over 25 without children, therefore an outcast. I never once questioned their culture as i was a visitor technically even though I lived there. I tried to learn the language and was laughed at mostly.You visit and live in a country because you like the ways or RESPECT the ways. If you dont, forget it. LEAVE!!!! I would never have imagined askin to build a church there..... look at the UK now!

2006-09-06 10:30:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Have you ever lived overseas? Obviously not. It takes time to assimilate. It's impossible for anyone to conveniently slip into another way of life, another culture and different ways of doing things the minute they step onto the land of their new home.

Studies have shown that the children of immigrants (ie, the first generation of the family to be born there) actually over compensate for their parents "foreigness" in some ways and take on the local dialect/customs/habits in a somewhat exaggerated way. These children are often embarassed by the differences between their parents and the parents of their school friends etc. It's a complete fallacy that these children don't bother learning the language or the local culture. They do, often leading to a lot of conflict with their parents, who maintain a more traditional viewpoint.

What exactly are "the norms and standards that we adhere to"? And, were there such a thing, why would it be necessary for everyone to have exactly the same ones? A well-functioning society doesn't require stepford citizens.

I am unsure of your nationality, but would wager my bets with North American or British (which is, of course, ironic, as probably never have two nations been made up of such varied ancestory) who I have noticed, in my experience of living overseas in several countries in different parts of the world, are the least likely to integrate with the society in which they are living!! North American and British ex-pats are the cliquiest, most solitary group of people I have ever come across, often not attempting to strike up friendships with the local people and often mocking and criticising the habits and customs that they have!

Tolerance and compassion. Ever heard of them?

2006-09-06 11:30:11 · answer #2 · answered by Friz 2 · 0 0

To me, integration isn't really the issue - it's citizenship. If a group of people want to come to the U.S. and start a community of their own, I think that's fine (as long as the community isn't inherently harmful...like if someone wanted to start a community of cannibals, for an outrageous example). BUT - I think that they need to come here legally. Go through the process of citizenship. Pay taxes.

If, though, you're talking about total seclusion - meaning they refuse to learn the national language, or how to deal with the people and culture outside their new community - then yes, I believe that is a problem. No community is a totally island. We live in a global community now, and you HAVE to be able to communicate and cooperate with other groups.

2006-09-06 10:33:04 · answer #3 · answered by Jinx U 5 · 0 0

Well if you can remember another group of people, oh lets call them Native Americans. Now do you remember them integrating. Good because I do. Oh wait a minute. Wait a minute. When they were learning english and trying to integrate, they were considered outsiders and a menace to the law because they were not the same color. Oh and also considered traiters by their own people for trying to. So yeah I don't think that idea would be great. You have to offer it, not force it down their throats!

2006-09-06 11:07:52 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

we are the melting pot. the legislation you are proposing would ruin a great city like New York, or anywhere else that takes pride indiversity.
"norms and standards" - people born in this country can't agree on that. Narrow minded people could make that mean anything,( i.e. religion)My anciestors were slaves why should i dress or act like they were european. Why would i want to.
"seperate from the rest of us" - You must mean seperate from the rich, because I see immigrants all the time. We shop at the same stores, their kids go to my little girl's school. they are not really seperate. What you want is for them to forget their culture.
What you mad they don't speak english, you don't learn overnight do you. Remember just because they are talking spanish to each other does not mean they don't know english. why would two people who have a different native language talk in english, and struggle to understand each other, its just easier to talk spanish.

2006-09-06 10:33:57 · answer #5 · answered by therealmikebrown 3 · 0 1

Yes we should refuse entry to those people who do not want to integrate, after all we would not be able to go into other countries and dictate what we want to do.

2006-09-06 22:12:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Britain has always been a country of immigration and migration. To put checks on it like language tests would be ridiculous. What next - ban Melas? Ban Indian food? Force Muslims to speak English at home..and how would that be enforceable?

2006-09-06 11:15:17 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

iYa know that's an interesting question ;especially with the current events.This country is a democracy,But not a pure democracy by definition.We use advocates or representitives to plead our opinions.Can't do it any other way as far as I know.This prevents us from beating the hell out of eachotherbecause we disagree with what someone else thinks.While this isn't Pure democracy,it provides organization.So we decide by voting our opinions as to who we'll start war with.Every body can't have their own way

2006-09-06 10:51:07 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No, we should let them keep their own religion, we should give them homes, cars, mobile phones, free health and free education. Then we should let them build their own places of worship. Then we should let them say that we are wrong to allow the practice of homosexuals, that we should cut the hands of thiefs, we should have forced marriages, that women should be forced to wear oppressive clothing and have reduced rights. Then we should let them kill and injury men, women and children and march through London carrying fake suicide bombs and placards that state 'death to non belivers' and 'Islam will rule the world' etc.... Then if we are lucky their children will grow up and travel to far away places and learn to kill our soldiers and learn how to kill them selves and other men women and children.

2006-09-06 22:25:10 · answer #9 · answered by jimmy two times 2 · 0 0

No; if they have gone through the whole legal process, have lived up to those standards, making an effort to learn the language, that is enough.

2006-09-06 10:50:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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