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Is it true that grandparents can have baptism done and later if the church finds out it was against (one, but maybe ok. by one) of the parents wishes, is it invalid? does it count?

2006-09-06 09:16:22 · 5 answers · asked by markie m 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Canon Law states for a baptism of a minor to be valid that there must be the consent of:
+ The parents, or
+ At least one parent, or
+ The person who legitimately takes the place of the parents

Most Catholic parishes will not baptize a minor unless both parents consent especially if the parents are divorced.

The consent of grandparents is only valid if they are the legal guardians of the minor.

I am not sure of the validity of the baptism if fraud is involved in documenting the consent. Hopefully someone more educated than me will answer.

With love in Christ.

2006-09-06 17:35:51 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 0

--Is Catholic--

Let me deal with your secondary questions first: No, if a grandparent baptizes the child (must be below age of reason) against the parents wishes it is not invalid at all. However, it is illicit and would be considered sinful, UNLESS the child is at the danger of death or there is some sort of mitigating circumstances.

Now a priest would not do a baptism without the consent of the parents because there must be the expectation that the child will be raised Catholic for the priest to agree to the baptism of those below the age of reason. Grandparents have been known to do secret baptism and this is a real headache for priests. It is important to be baptized and if a grandparent is worried about the salvation of their grandson whose parents will not baptize that child, the grandparent should talk to a competent priest on how best to proceed that will be in accord with not just the letter of Catholicism, but also the Spirit.

On to your overarching question on what makes baptism invalid. There are very few things with invalidate baptism. Canon Law governs this which you can read here
http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/canon/c0840-1165.htm#par1787

Beyond the biblical instructions, the earliest Catechism, the Didache (ca 70-100 AD) instructs
Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized to fast one or two days before.

2006-09-06 19:49:06 · answer #2 · answered by Liet Kynes 5 · 0 0

Baptism is the simplest of rituals: Whilst pouring water over the forehead of the person being baptised, you say the words, I baptise thee in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, Amen. Done.

Once done, it cannot be undone. It is a fact once it is done.
You may, however, be thinking of 'Christening', i.e., the naming of the child, that is an entirely different matter. You would have to talk to the local Registrar of Births...........

2006-09-06 16:21:48 · answer #3 · answered by thomasrobinsonantonio 7 · 1 0

The only acceptable baptism is the one that Jesus underwent at 29-30 years of age--at that time, the legal age for a man was 29-30(Books r out of reach)
In other words, when they have obtained the age of consent--when the young live under their parents domain, the child is protected with the God-respecting parents that Love God.

So, according to God's Word, this is to be done.

The sprinkling of children with Holy water was never instituted by God's Laws--which is more to the point, that the old Law, with its sacrifices and heavily burdened people,

was nailed to the stake with Jesus because Of Love for the people--no more sacrifices required.Isn't that such a Most wonderful God? He removed the constant slaughtering of animals for sacricing to atone for sins and guilt.

People, this was a very heavy burden that the people underwent--All because God Loves us and wants us to come to Him through the precious blood of God's sacrificial Lamb for the world. His Name Will be Sanctified and will be made known, Yahweh, Holiest, Most Divine, Sovereign King.

2006-09-06 16:36:58 · answer #4 · answered by avaddohn-Apollyon 4 · 0 1

NO ONE CAN CHANGE GOD'S WORK................
THEY CAN INVALIDATE IT ALL THEY WANT, BUT IN THE EYES OF GOD.............................IT IS DONE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

2006-09-06 16:21:02 · answer #5 · answered by nivia 1 · 1 0

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