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2006-09-06 09:15:13 · 23 answers · asked by Elle 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I'm not convinced by the carbon dating test results. Carbon dating is notoriously inaccurate. Using it they have dated LIVING snails to be 24,000 BC, and a Viking horn to be from 2006.

2006-09-06 09:20:56 · update #1

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Yes, my faith and beliefs.

But also from scientific conclusions.

This is from some of the research that has been done on the Shroud of Turin.

And for those that state that the Shroud of Turin is a hoax, why has the sceintific community spent so many hours and money researching it. The Shroud exists today, therefore it is not a hoax.

The question remains, is it the burial cloth of Christ. For all intensive purposes, the evidence of this cloth shows that it ......

1. is the burial cloth of a person. (a special note here should be made, burial cloths generally never lasted long after the body started decomposition, so this cloth was removed from the body shortly after death/burial)
2. it is human blood on the cloth.
3. that the person appears to have been Male (unless females at the time had beards)
4. this person had wounds in his wrists.
5. they appeared to have worn a crown of thorns (the crown seems to have been a rough bunch of thorns and not the wreath shaped crown of thorns so common in artistic depictions)
6. that blood ran from a chest wound, this suggests that the man received a postmortem stabbing wound in the vicinity of the heart.
7. that blood ran down his arms and that this blood flowed while the man was upright with his arms at angles like the hands of a clock at ten minutes before two
8. that many details on the shroud that suggest both a beating and falling: a severely bruised left kneecap, possibly a dislocated nasal cartilage, a large swelling near the right eye socket and cheekbone.
9. there are significant abrasions on both shoulders. On the shoulders, welts from the apparent scourging are abraded as though rubbed over. Might this be from carrying the patibulum, the crossbeam of the cross, across both shoulders?
10. has not been painted
11. the image is from the discoloration of a thin layer (thinner than bacteria) of soapwort used in the first century to clean linen.
12. the image when applied to a VP-8 image analyzer creates a 3-D image. (Let's be clear: You can not plot a regular photograph this way. Nor can you do so for a painting, even a brown and white painting. You can do so with a precise copy of the Shroud, however.)

Even the scientific community that performed the carbon dating tests in 1973-78 agree that those tests were flawed and were performed on an area of the cloth that had previously been repaired (around 1500)

2006-09-08 06:45:34 · answer #1 · answered by Bob 5 · 1 1

The shroud, measuring 14 ft, 4 inches with the help of means of three ft, 7 inches has been Carbon dated in exams with the help of means of laboratories in Oxford, Zurich and Arizona as relationship from between 1260 and 1390. This has no longer been discredited and stands as actual!! Shrouds on the time of Jesus were 2 or 3 products and no record of a unmarried piece shroud has been were given the following upon!! the textile of shrouds of the time were an uncomplicated unmarried weave. The Turin shroud is a a lengthy way more desirable state-of-the-artwork double weave no longer were given the following upon before the middle a lengthy time period!! The shroud grew to develop into into truly replicated using aspects were given the following upon to were used with the help of means of Leonardo da Vinci who's understood to were the faker!! As Christianity's maximum disputed relics, it truly is locked away at Turin Cathedral in Italy and more desirable exams were refused. If it grew to develop into into actual why refuse try that would want to intend to verify that?!! The Catholic Church does no longer declare the shroud is actual nor that it truly is a controversy of religion, yet says it may properly be an priceless reminder of Christ's interest. those who declare it truly is actual tie it so heavily to Christianity that as further and more desirable counsel exhibits it to be a forgery and a hoax it is how Christianity will be considered!!

2016-11-25 00:57:29 · answer #2 · answered by sharples 4 · 0 0

I believe that it is genuine, because it would be impossible to fake.

The pollen found in it's fabric is only from the region where Jesus was crucified. The carbon dating method was thrown off by the fires that occured where it was being kept. And I believe that only the power of the resurrection could cause an image to be impressed on the cloth like that image was made. The wounds of the person wrapped in the cloth are consistent with the wounds of Christ. Should the cloth be worshipped? No, but it should be preserved as evidence of the crucifixion of Jesus.

2006-09-06 09:22:00 · answer #3 · answered by Willie S 1 · 1 0

"then cometh Simon Peter, following him, and went into the sepulcher, and seeth the linen clothes lie, and the Napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself" John 20:6-7. So, according to this verse, there were at least two different clothes or napkins used to wrap around Jesus, the head had a separate cloth, so I do not believe that the Shroud of Turin was the one used on Jesus. It shows the whole body, and Christ had a separate cloth for the head.

2006-09-06 16:35:49 · answer #4 · answered by kitty K 2 · 0 0

Carbon dating is only good for certain things... and only if there wasn't a fire or other, similar, circumstances.

No, I don't not believe the Shroud of Turin is genuine. There may be some story behind it initially, but I certainly don't believe that is the burial shroud of Jesus.

2006-09-06 09:26:21 · answer #5 · answered by Kithy 6 · 0 1

We can't really depend on the carbon dating because it got messed up by the fumes from the fire. What bothers me is that at the time of Jesus, Jewish men wore their hair short, like the Romans, so its not really rational to believe that Jesus looked very much like DaVinci painted Him in "The Last Supper", long hair and all. I would very much like it to be the real thing, but wouldn't hold my breath on that being true.

2006-09-06 09:25:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The carbon dating dated it to the Middle Ages, but furthermore, the style of weaving used was not extant at the time of Jesus.

It could have been created using a camera obscura.

2006-09-06 09:21:19 · answer #7 · answered by ZombieTrix 2012 6 · 0 1

No. The carbon dating was off. Now there is some merit to the idea that the fire it survived might have skewed the results, but it shouldn't have skewed them so much that it dated what it dated.

2006-09-06 09:17:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

It has ZERO to with Carbon dating.

It is prophesied in the Old Testament. It will be found and dug up. Is the one they have now real? That can't be known yet. They have to go back where they found it. why? There is something else they HAVE to find with it. When they find this "item", it will prove by old testament prophesy, it is real. :)

wooooooooo hooooooooooooooo

.BTW: They are less than 300' from it now. they hope to have it by next summer. :)
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2006-09-06 10:02:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

All credible research indicates it originated in the 14th century, coincidentally the same time it appears in the written record. All attempts to discredit this evidence tends to be rather absurd and untestable suggestions regarding how the evidence could have been "tainted" somehow.
Occams razor rules.

2006-09-06 09:19:45 · answer #10 · answered by Dane 6 · 1 1

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