How many of you are willing to pay MORE for veggies,in order to save BILLIONS by deporting ILLEGALS???

Question

I DEFINITELY am!!!!!
Besides, studys have proven that the cost of veggies will NOT go up, except by a few cents!!!!

to'coragryph" it would NOT "cost billions to deport them"!!!!!!!! All we have to do is STOP the hiring of illegals,and STOP the renting to illegals,and STOP the CATERING to illegals!!!!!! They would LEAVE on their OWN!!!!

Answer 1

Give this to Cheeta and others-they can look it up-by names in report.




Give it a break--the facts below

I will speak for many farmers-the 80% who don't want illegals here. Your food is covered-most farmers do not support the big corp farms who use migrant workers.

less than 10 percent by Mexico (10%pickers-less10% other farm related)--the other 90% of the farms say your welcome. We don't need you -you need us. Be nice



"Phillip Martin, an economist at the University of California, Davis, has demolished the argument that a crackdown on illegals would ruin it, or be a hardship to consumers. Most farming — livestock, grains, etc. — doesn't heavily rely on hired workers. Only about 20 percent of the farm sector does, chiefly those areas involving fresh fruit and vegetables.

The average "consumer unit" in the U.S. spends $7 a week on fresh fruit and vegetables, less than is spent on alcohol, according to Martin. On a $1 head of lettuce, the farm worker gets about 6 or 7 cents, roughly 1/15th of the retail price. Even a big run-up in the cost of labor can't hit the consumer very hard.

Martin recalls that the end of the bracero guest-worker program in the mid-1960s caused a one-year 40 percent wage increase for the United Farm Workers Union. A similar wage increase for legal farm workers today would work out to about a 10-dollar-a-year increase in the average family's bill for fruit and vegetables. Another thing happened with the end of the bracero program: The processed-tomato industry, which was heavily dependent on guest workers and was supposed to be devastated by their absence, learned how to mechanize and became more productive."


If every illegal alien here today currently left America, the immediate economic impact would be insignificant and over the long haul, the impact would likely be negligible.

Got it!
If cost go up-for greedy reasons-they will come down-or they go under. No problem for us at all!

Nice post-no I wouldn't have to pay more-or anyone else for long!

Answer 2

i would pay more i usually pay from local growers anyway so no biggie. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.
the cost of keeping them and their crying and flag waving is far more than a few cents on a tomato

Answer 3

Boy, don't we all wish it were this simple. And our politicians, of both parties, try to make it sound that way.

Try looking for information on illegal or undocumented aliens in the construction and hospitality industries for one. Or how about low pay jobs in the food processing and packing industries? Illegal immigrants do far more than pick fruit and vegetables. The giant agribusiness and the small-time contractor both hire people at the lowest wage possible and an illegal is likely to be paid far below what his time is actually worth, no matter what his level of skill.

The metric to predict the actual cost to the American economy of deporting illegal aliens is impossible to develop because the effects of elasticity of demand cannot be predicted. In other words, if all of the supply of low-wage workers is simultaneously removed, what will it take to persuade higher wage workers to take these lousy jobs? Would you work all day in the fields, washing dishes, working in a food processing plant, etc., if you could make the same hourly under the golden arches? The effect of removing all of these low wage workers simultaneously will be inflationary and spread throughout all sectors of the economy - what you might call the "trickle up" effect.

Would it be enough to cause harmful side effects? I don't know and I can't predict, but evidently big business feels that this is likely enough that they generally support Bush's "loose" policy on illegal immigration.

I don't think anyone can really predict the effects with any accuracy, but to say it would only cost ten bucks a year on your vegetable bill is to ignore economics entirely. Oversimplifying the issue like this does not lead to productive public dialogue or productive national policies.

Oversimplification of the great national issues of the day is one of the things that has led to the extreme polarization and lack of coherence in our policies and the idiotic sound bite politics practiced by both sides.

Answer 4

It will cost billions to deport them. You have to hire a boatload of agents to find them and arrest them (they are hiding), then build a bunch or jails to hold them while you sort out their paperwork and arrange flights. Then pay for the flights. This is millions of people so count at least a couple thousand a piece for all of that, and you got your billions.
Then you have to keep them out, so you need a wall that is so long you cant get around it, so deep you cant dig under, so thick you cant tunnel through. That would be the biggest construction project of this century. Another few billion. (and you cant get it cheap by using illegal labor)

On the other hand, the income taxes illegals pay with fake social security numbers are being used to pay your grandma today. So I think it is much cheaper to keep them.

Answer 5

Of course I would,make the employers of the apprehended illegals help pay for the deportation.Also trust me Americans will contribute the money if a way could be found to do it in a timely fashion.And I'm not sure it would cost that much to get the job done .As long as Haliburton wasn't chosen as the contractor.sorry I couldn't resist that one.
Explain this to me please .Why should any illegal be rewarded for being illegal with the gift of American citizenship.It doesn't make any sense to me.

Answer 6

The price of food is subject to inflation, and like gasoline, has been kept artificially low to benefit consumers and therefore the bottom line of the people at the top. If workers, farmers, etc were treated fairly and got paid what they are worth in our inflated economy, the price will go up anyway. And besides, most farm workers are still Americans. It is best to do this while this is still true. And I will say it again. You can grow your own food. People even grow food in pots in their apartments. Anything that is a small bush like the stuff you put in salad and tacos...will all grow in pots. So people shouldn't worry about a few cents more for food.
In answer to your question...I am! I'm not worried at all. I live in California where they claim Americans won't do this work and know plenty of AMericans that do.

Answer 7

Americans already spend billions on illegal aliens anyway. Why not use the billions to deport them? Besides, even if Americans didn't save money by doing that...it would still be worth it.

Answer 8

Everything else goes up in cost, why not pay a little more for veggies? Especially if it means keeping illegals out of the country.

Answer 9

I'll grow my own. Or I'll pay more. The price will go up regardless. If the illegals keep our cost of vegetables down, what do you think will happen if their given legal status? Do you think the cost will stay down? Of course not. In fact, the cost will probably go to 3 times the cost now. Head of lettuce will cost $4 or $5 dollars. Why? Because the "now legals" will go on strike for more pay, more benefits. Everyone who says we are benefiting from illegals, isn't stopping to think of the problems we'd set ourselves up for by making them legal. The mass number of them, will make for mass rioting.
We need control over HOW MANY of them are allowed to come into this country and how many STAY in this country.

Answer 10

i grow all my veggies,,,and stock up when the can goods are on sale so it wont hurt my family...

it might cost the USA 20 million dollars to deport them but it would cost a billion just to let them stay here...so it would be cheaper to deport them in the long run then to let them live off of the system....and when word spreads that they are being deported they would high tail it out of here or stay in hiding..no you cant get everyone but you can get the majority of them...and if the USA would stick to their guns on illegal immigration they wouldn't want to come back..