People tell me Lucifer rebelled for want of power, but...?

Question

power is not an end in itself. People who want power are intent on changing things, or are afraid of things changing in a way that would hurt them. Change or fear. What really motivated this complex being who was the number-one angel?

Barb, it can't be greed, he knew he wouldn't win, and therefor wouldn't win anything.

Answer 1

In Christian mythology, didn't Lucifer, the most beautiful of all the Arch Angels allow his pride to become jealous of Gods treatment of man. Specifically of Gods giving man a soul?

In the bible the Arch Angels are not what we would have called "nice". They did all Gods dirty work. They were the enforcers, the punishers, the killers. Once man became Gods chosen and the Angels were no longer the first in his love they were angry.

I guess, in a way you could say it was a power struggle since Lucifer really only wanted things to stay the way they were.

Answer 2

The Old Testament does not connect pride or the Fall with Satan, the Devil, or the Adversary, the only scriptural "support" for this notion is the misinterpretation of the fall of Lucifer (the king of Babylon), and certain passages in the New Testament. But the New Testament does not give any clear information on the fall of Satan through pride either. One place where Lucifer is connected with pride is in Milton's Paradise Lost. He "applied the name to the demon of sinful pride" ("Lucifer," A Dictionary of Angels, Gustav Davidson, The Free Press, New York, 1967).

It appears that the whole story of Lucifer as Satan, the fallen rebellious angel, is based entirely on non-canonical sources: the so-called Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha. There are also many pre-Christian myths and allegories that include stories about Lucifer, which is the Latin name for the Greek Eosphoros. In his Theogony Hesiod speaks of two divine beings, the brothers Eosphoros (the morning star) and Hesperos (the evening star). They are the children of Astraios (the starry heaven) and Eos (the dawn). The morning star, like the Virgin of the Sea, is one of the titles given to Divine Mother goddesses such as the Roman Venus, the Phoenician Astarte, the Jewish Ashtoreth, and the later Christian Holy Virgin. In the oldest Zoroastrian allegories, Mithra is supposed to have conquered the planet Venus. In the Christian tradition, Michael defeats Lucifer.

The planet Venus is the lightbringer, the first radiant beam that does away with the darkness of night. It is a symbol of the development of the divine light in man, for the first awakening of self-consciousness, for independent thinking and the real application of free will. It means the bringing of the light of compassionate understanding to the human mind. In this broader view the connection of the morning star with Jesus makes good sense, because compassion is the essence of Jesus' teaching. This teaching shows the greatest consensus throughout the New Testament: it is mentioned in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Romans, Galatians, 1 Thessalonians, Hebrews, 1 John, James, and 1 Peter. The best known reference is in Matthew (22:37-40)

Answer 3

Lucifer resigned from heaven. God, being the well-documented sadist that he is, no doubt wanted to keep Lucifer around so that he could punish him and try to get him back under his (God's) power. Probably what really happened was that Lucifer came to hate God's kingdom, his sadism, his demand for slavish conformity and obedience, his psychotic rage at any display of independent thinking and behavior. Lucifer realized that he could never fully think for himself and could certainly not act on his independent thinking so long as he was under God's control. Therefore he left Heaven, that terrible spiritual-State ruled by the cosmic sadist Jehovah, and was accompanied by some of the angels who had had enough courage to question God's authority and his value-perspective. Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth.

Answer 4

There is a story that sounds suspiciously more than the tale we tell to children, of Daniel in the lion's den. Daniel 6 describes how Darius arrayed his important people in various places, but he put one person above them all--Daniel (see verses 1-3). But there arose a jealosy (verse 4). A conspiracy arose and a strategy was hatched (verse 5). Verses 7 and 8 describe something important. The law was that when a decree was made, it cannot be changed. This was not true everywhere or in everyplace, but these people had a rule that they expected for kings were but a step away from the gods themselves, so it was the equivalent of speaking "ex cathedra" today, if the Pope is speaking of church policy from his papal authority, it is as the voice of God--just like Darius. Daniel, meanwhile, worshipped his God as usual, in defiance of the king's decree, because Daniel served a king who was greater still. He was caught and the issue brought before Darius. Verses 14 and 15 tell how Darius saw his mistake and tried to change it, but was told that the law cannot change. This was essentially saying, if you would break this fundamental law, you cannot be king.

In a fashion, it may be modeling an even bigger picture. Satan saw someone preferred above him and hatched a plot to depose him. God had decreed that "the soul that sins, it shall die", such as we see in Ezekiel 19, where God also says, "All souls are mine." When Jesus came to earth, and lived without sin, he died as a sacrifice for the sins of the world, the innocent paying the price of the guilty, for the guilty could not pay the price required of their wrongs. What then, if Jesus would not go through with it? If the pain of his suffering were not worth the souls of sinners such as me and you and he refused, what then? If God were to draw us into His heaven after that, Satan, the accuser of our souls might just say--you broke your own rules, failure is sin, and God cannot be a sinner, therefore you cannot be God!

It is, in that sense, a foretelling of a chess play, a gambit wherein Satan says, Check!. God has to forfeit his prize piece or fold the game. Interesting thing about chess, when a pawn makes it safely to the other side, it can become any piece that was previously taken, even that prize piece that was just lost. Chess may not be scriptural, but from what I read in Scripture, we have who God is, for as much as He cares to have people describe of Him, and what it is that he is doing, for as much as He cares to tell of that. What Satan is and does has its moments (Job 1, for instance, Revelation 12 for another), but they have a smaller consequence. Satan rebelled, period. Christ redeemed, the beginning of important things.

Answer 5

I know no one can really ever know but I think that he just thought he was better, and that he had a good chance of getting most of the hosts of Heaven to follow after him, after all if 1/3 chose him then it wouldn't have taken too much more to make it an even fight. God cant be defeated but all people have agency and can choose, so I think that if enough people had chose to follow Satan then he could have won.

Answer 6

Accordingly,
He got jealous of "Adam and Eve" that they were the culmination of God's creativity and endownment in the flesh. Angels were to serve human beings, but Lucifer frankly got upset that God was now pouring love to this two humans. Instead of serving 'us' he rebelled and betrayed God. Evidently Lucifer brought other angels down with him.

Michael the Archangel was assigned to cast Lucifer and company out of Heaven and thus Lucifer became Satan. There's more to this then what I state, but you get the point.

By Lucifer's actions, you can see how it relates to mankind and the inheritance we received from him: lust instead of love, hatred and jealousy, and the worse sin, betrayal. *sigh*

Answer 7

Greed!

Answer 8

lusafer felt he was better. that he was 2 good looking. might possable be all the sins

Answer 9

Pride and jelousy