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God speaking to Lucifer:

"You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created,
Till iniquity was found in you.
“ By the abundance of your trading
You became filled with violence within,
And you sinned; "

2006-09-06 07:33:22 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Ezekiel 28

2006-09-06 07:34:00 · update #1

8 answers

Sorry, Furious, I did not see your YA message about my previous post before I posted this; please accept my apology for not answering sooner. Here's my answer:

The word translated as "trading" (NKJV) or "traffick" (KJV) in Hebrew is "rekullah;" the literal meaning is "to conduct business by trafficking or selling merchandise." However, Hebrew (like English) has "inferred meanings." If I were to say someone was involved in drug trafficking, you'd understand that they were selling something that is harmful and not lawful.

In this context, God tells Satan that He is aware his perfection was defiled by engaging in acts that are against God's laws. God's chief law has always been that there are no other gods before Him. Satan's pride caused him to become corrupt, violating his perfection. This lead him into the iniquity of believing he, Satan, was better than God.

I hope this helps. Peace.

Christina and mzJakes -- read the entire Biblical passage. Was Tyre in Eden? Was it ever perfect? Did it ever hover over God's throne? Was it a cherub? This is an allegory and should not be interpreted to literally symbolize Tyre.

2006-09-06 07:42:50 · answer #1 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0 0

Ezekiel 28:11-12. The word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says.

This is a prophecy against the King of Tyre. God is not speaking to Lucifer.

2006-09-06 14:42:47 · answer #2 · answered by cnm 4 · 0 0

This whole chapter was a message for Tyre's King. Ezekiel may have been condemning not only the king of Tyre but Satan, who had motivated the king to sin...All translations don't use "trading" ..It means -Your rich commerce led you to violence and you sinned.

2006-09-06 14:55:11 · answer #3 · answered by soulsista 4 · 0 0

Sounds like a typical christian mistranslation. First off, there is no 'Lucifer'...this is a greek mistranslation of 'morning star' and is referring to the king of tyre...as explicitly stated a couple of verses earlier. The whole parable is a warning to the king, reminding him of what he had, what he did and how he was about to lose everything. The thing he did was to promote idolatry....there attracting an 'abundance' of people, 'trading' their merits for sins.

2006-09-06 14:45:28 · answer #4 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 1 1

Prophecy regarding the King of Tyre. (Land of great wealth)
Also symbolic of what made a good angel an opposer of God
Trading = Sales goods (Literal)
Trading = What was exported to others at a price (Symbolic)

2006-09-06 14:37:48 · answer #5 · answered by icyuryy 2 · 1 0

It's actually a prophesy of doom the the pagan nation of Tyre. The city had a thriving commerce in it's time and apparently their leader claimed to be God, therby the sin.

2006-09-06 14:42:24 · answer #6 · answered by CHRISTINA 4 · 1 1

He traded his purity and righteousness for sin. To do this he betrayed God by allowing himself to get jealous of "Adam and Eve".

But you know, who knows what exactly happened then. It sad for all mankind that it happened.

2006-09-06 14:38:29 · answer #7 · answered by Sick Puppy 7 · 1 0

I'm not sure, but it seems like trading in this massage means "The trading of good for evil."

2006-09-06 14:36:19 · answer #8 · answered by Fefe 4 · 1 0

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