Can I try one more time to get a real response about the actual issue?

Question

Then I'll give up.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060905173907AAJr9Ep&r=w

I asked about why these clinics are not PROTESTED against. Actions speak louder than words. Some people have said that they're against fertility clinics, but I've never heard of them being picketed. Why the words and no actions?

Also, abortions are, by and large, performed by OBGYN's who use their offices to deliver babies and conduct pre-natal checkups. Even Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to pregnant women who want to keep their babies. I think we can agree that these are good things. So you don't get off the hook by saying that fertility clinics do some good as well as bad, so that's why they aren't protested against.



I appreciate the few prolifers who were willing to share their feelings about fertility clinics, but so far no one has addressed the core issue:


why one standard for fertility clinics and another for "abortion clinics"?

not trying to be a jerk... I just want an answer

Will, if that's what it takes, I will.

If you've noticed, 5 pts isn't anything to me.

Jax, I appreciate your answer.

Nikki, once again, you find a way of never actually answering a difficult question, and instead just insult the questionner.

Mitch, you need to grow up, son.

Answer 1

I have, as best I can, chased down the previous threads from this question. I'll do my best not to disappoint you with my answer.

I am prolife. I have never protested an abortion clinic, or anything else for that matter; at least not along the lines of picketing, blocking, etc. So, my answer may not give you what you want.

I think, as you probably already know, that two things really are behind this lack of response: ignorance of the facts and emotion.
People really have little idea what goes on at the fertility clinics. I know several couples, some whom attend church and are practicing Christians, who were well into the program before they realized what was going to happen. At that point, they were in quite a quandry as to what to do. Some backed out, some took the cryo-preserve method (or whatever they call it) and I don't know what others did. But the point is, they were in the process and still didn't realize what was going to happen. Many people don't think beyond the good that is done. Of those few who understand the actual process, many feel that the good outweighs the bad. To me, this is relativism, and not acceptable.

So, ignorance and relativism, or the idea that the good outweighs the bad.

The other opinion I mentioned, emotion, is pretty obvious to me, and probably stems from the 'good outweighs the bad' argument aforementioned. Abortion is a hot button topic, and America is all over that subject. We are reactive in our responses, and enough information has been put out about abortion to get people to react. So far, the kind of information you bring to light is not on the headlines as much as abortion has been, so the response is not nearly so great. People react to abortion because they understand it to a degree; they don't react to the fertility clinics because they don't know/understand what goes on; ignorance again (for other readers, don't mistake my use of the word ignorance for stupidity-they are not the same). People get all worked up about abortion because they have seen the pictures, heard the stories, and think they know what it is all about. They don't react to fertility clinics the same way because they, by and large, do not have the same amount of information to react to.

This is by no means clear and concise, and I apologize for rambling.

My stance is for life at all stages following conception. I disagree with the practice of discarding fertilized eggs, or embryos, or whatever the correct technical term is. I try to educate those whom I have contact with that are going through or considering the process. No different than I do if I know someone is considering an abortion. There are alternatives to both.

Answer 2

I'm not sure, but I assume that it probably has something to do with Roe v. Wade. The creation of the unfortunately named "abortion clinics" are seen as a direct result of this unpopular ruling, so I assume that most people see picketing abortion clinics as a direct protest at the people (I.E.: the abortion doctors) who have financially benefited from the decision.

Fertility clinics came much later, I believe, so they do not seem to have generated as much attention. The carefully chosen name of "fertility clinic" might have something to do with the fact that people do not stop and think about what actually goes on there. If protesters picked "fertility" clinics, then they would have to stop and explain exactly why they were there to every passer-by. Picketing an abortion clinic seems to be self-explanatory.

Answer 3

That's a good question. I'm not sure why they aren't being picketed. Someone has to have a passion to lead it, maybe nobody is there yet? I remember when the fights against the abortion clinics were very strong, all the people were very passionate about it and believed very strong in what they were doing, maybe there isn't a passion like this right now. I don't know.
In our area we don't hear about any fertility clinics, I don't even know where they are, maybe this could be the problem, it's all being done quietly? Very good question, I'll have to think about this one some more, thanks.

Answer 4

For people that like forcing there will on to others it easier to protest an abortion clinic than a fertility clinic because they can feel good about themselves for making someone feel bad for doing something that they have done. It is easier to feel good about making someone feel bad for having a abortion than it is to make someone to feel bad about the fact that they may not be able to have a child naturally. Being unable to have a child is not normally a choice unlike having an abortion, so this is why no one protests outside a fertility clinic.

Answer 5

Are you trying to say that people should protest fertility clinics like they do abortion clinics?

Or why is it ok for one and not the other?

Well I thought only doctors in OBGYN's office did 'D & C" if it was a tubal pregnancy or the heath of the mother was at state and both would die?

Are you saying that abortions can be a good thing as well as a bad thing? And Fertility Clinic do good and bad things also?

Well I am wondering if either one are doing good?

One is paying Money for a baby in a clinic, and a lot of times, use someone elses human parts, where another one is paying Money to take (away) a human part (s) out of them? and stem cell research is coming from it?

Answer 6

I just now got done answering your original question. Guess I'll give ya the short version here.

Fertility clinics are in the business of creating life. There are better ways to ensure the fetuses created are given every chance at life than picketing the fertility clinics.

Abortion clinics are in the business of ending lives. There are also better ways of protesting them than picketing. Thus, I don't picket either type of clinic.

Answer 7

Your question is a bit confusing, but...
I think that it is not protested against beause it is not all THAT common. Don't get me wrong, alot of people do it. But I don't feel it's a problem so big that protesters need to get in the picture and stop it.

Though there are bad factors, some people need (or want) these clinics because they cannot have a child themselves. That, is understandable. Also, the 'waste' you were talking about isn't viewed as life to some people. Possibly...

Tried to help. Your question if a bit on the confusing side though.

Answer 8

Since I don't protest either in the way you mean, I'll offer this suggestion, but I have no proof of it.

Perhaps it's about exposure. Since fertility clinics and ob/gyn offices serve many purposes and abortion clinics "advertise" abortions (abortions are what you think of when you think of them), it would make more sense for media purposes to target them.

Fair? Unfair? I don't know. The point of protesting them, as I understand it, is to raise public awareness and make people think about those little lives.

In a similar way, people protest XXX bookstores. Now, they sell porn at your local convenience store, but that's not the sole purpose of a convenience store. That is the main purpose of an adult bookstore. Which makes more sense to target?

Just because the staged protests target abortion clinics, that doesn't mean that people don't protest fertility clinics/treatments and abortions in ob/gyn offices in private or political ways.

Answer 9

Well you want us to look at abortion clinics as fertility clinics this look i know both have their own good and bad but in abortion clinic who gave you the authority to pervent a child to live (excpt the mother's health) you cann't kill the child because of reasons because thier is no excuse for killing a baby you are a murdrer

Answer 10

It's ok, you are right...that's so wrong as abortion, but what have you done so far?? if you tell me there is a rational way to protest i'm with you, just let me know when and how.