Why aren't fertility clinics picketed by the pro-life movement?

Question

If life starts at conception, as the prolife movement states, then fertility clinics are probably the site of more "killing" than abortion clinics.

if you're not aware, a much larger number of embryos are fertilized than a couple can use in these clinics because of the high probability that they won't survive. And the leftovers are discarded. Even those "moral" people who refuse to have them discarded pay to keep their leftovers frozen forever... so even then the idea should be monstrous... keeping a "life" in suspended animation indefinitely (isn't death preferable to that anyway?)

to be blunt, one flush in a fertility clinic probably carries away a month's worth of appointments at an abortion clinic.

Why aren't fertility clinics protested against?

Debra, with all due respect (and I do respect you, I know your posts well), I didn't ask if you were against it.

I asked why you don't PROTEST it.

Words are actions are not equals.

Jersha, the huge majority of abortions are conducted by OBGYN's whose offices are also used to deliver babies.

You're only digging yourself deeper with that.

Lotusrain, you just articulated a position which says that a few clump of cells isn't as important as a developed fetus.

that would imply that you have nothing against a 1st trimester abortion.

is that true?

Answer 1

you ask the tough questions

Answer 2

Because pro-lifers cover a large spectrum of people. Not everyone who is pro-life feels the same way and pro-life is not just about babies either. It is about a respect for all life from the aged to the infant. Perhaps that is right and it should be discussed. Its is true that there are more fertilized eggs then what is used. Many are frozen and kept for later and some are signed over to research. But the intent is to bring life into the world, the intent of an abortion is to kill.The eggs you are talking about haven't started to divide and differentiate into specific cells yet. But when you see a garbage bag full of dead babies with little arms and legs thrown out like trash I think its a whole different ball game, myself. The eggs can survive almost indefinately. The leftovers as you call them are not routinely discarded. There is no awareness in an egg, it has not developed the ability to think and feel. A baby who is torn to pieces in the womb has feelings and suffers terribly. You need to see the picture of an unborn baby in the womb that the doctor was operating on inside the uterus before it was born because waiting would have killed the baby. The baby reached out of the womb and curled its little finger around the doctors finger. Now think about that real hard, do you see any difference? A baby is fully formed with a brain at about 8 weeks. The baby can feel pain and is rountinely aborted sometimes alive and is then murdered by the staff. Women have abortions up to 3 and 4 months old. Its murder and it does great harm to the mother as well as the baby. She will never really get over what she did, as a woman she betrayed the most sacred thing that a woman can do. I think the main difference is the intent of the act performed.

Answer 3

Okie dokie, I'll go there, feel free to blast me =)

I don't picket fertility clinics because their purpose is to try to create life I don't picket abortion clinics because it's just too f***ing sad to see those women walk in to end a life. And me picketing is not going to change their minds.

I have a little bit of experience here, because between my 2nd & 3rd child, I donated eggs for a friend. The fertility drugs are dangerous, they can cause cancer and other side effects. So you don't want to do it more than once if you don't have to. The drugs create many eggs, and they are all harvested because usually the woman has a hard time getting pregnant, and implanting many eggs increases the chances that at least one will develop. Many women have to undergo several implantations until one works.

If they should be so lucky as to be successful on the first try, at least in my experience, the woman has the option to donate the remaining embryos so another woman might have a chance to be a mother.

How can this be a bad thing worth picketing? Wouldn't it be a better idea to get laws passed to prevent the embryos from being destroyed, and have them instead donated to women that DO want them?

I may be making no sense to you at all, and that's ok. I understand how unpopular the prolife position is, I just feel the way I feel, and I don't feel we should be protesting the fertility clinics.

Answer 4

Not only do I not believe in fertility treatments like this, I think fertility drugs are problematic. They simply don't know how many babies will result, and then the mom has to make the unthinkable choice about how many and which ones to terminate.

Having said that, I think the reason people don't protest is because people use fertility clinics out of desperation to have a baby, not to terminate them. It seems, for the most part to be prolife.

If you've ever experienced infertility (and I have), you get why people take the risk. The life is wanted. I don't agree with it, and I'm not paying to support it.

I don't stand outside abortion clinics and protest. I don't approve of acts of terrorism against those who support abortion. Same with fertility clinics.

My vote is my protest. I would counsel against either, if asked. That's my protest.

Answer 5

First off maybe fertility clinics should be protested against. But if fertility and conception does occur at these clinics then you have just proven that life begins at conception. You have proven what we have already known. To play with human life is cruel. But if life does not occur at conception then how are surrogate mothers or how is invitro fertilization possible? How do you figure one months worth of flushed embryos are worth more then one abortion? To kill any kind of human life is cruel. But to play God with these embryos is inhumane. Just because a life is not worthy to you doesn't mean it is not valuable. Only God has that right to decide. That is what Hitler and Stalin wanted to do to particular groups because they didn't fit those dictator's agendas. If any human life is not valuable then who is next? Me? You? Anybody else out there?

Answer 6

Actually, extra embryos are frozen and saved until the parents decide what to do with them. Sometimes another couple adopts the embryos and gets them implanted for hopeful pregnancy. The only time they are discarded is if the parents give the OK. I don't agree with discarding embryos, but then again I don't agree with the whole procedure. There are so many babies who need loving homes that we don't need to create more just to satisfy our vanity.

Answer 7

But they are.... The Catholic Church has formally and publicly preached against these mortuaries.

They have protested these groups for nearly 2000 years beginning with the late great Roman Empire which used fertility "clinics" abortion mills, and orgies in the first century as well.

Catholicism wrote protests against them, and today against the latest Roman Empire same old, same old.

It why contraception will always be listed as sinful in the Church. It denies the surrender to God what is God's. "I am Way, the Truth, and the Life".

I hope I answered your question for you.

Answer 8

Pro-lifers don't protest in front of fertility clinics because they are the result of the culture of death brought about by abortion.

Also, it's the same reason they don't protest outside ob-gyn offices. You can't know what is happening in those places. The danger in abortuaries is more immediate, more obvious.

As far as the flushing of embryo's...you are right...it is a tragedy...and God counts them all. Pro-lifers are trying to combat that by programs like project snowflake...a program to adopt frozen embryos.

I hope this answers your question.
I do know that abortion protesters are very effective...and they get abortionists very upset.

http://www.lifenews.com/state1816.html

I guess you could ask pro-abortioners why they can't kill every pro-lifer...and it's the same reason...
They may want to, but they can't.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45664

We can't save them all.

God bless,

Dina

Answer 9

i'm professional-determination. once you get an aborion, you're removing a clump of cells. you may desire to get an abortion interior the 1st point of being pregnant (it is whilst it rather is a clump of cells and not a splash one) so which you at the instant are not fairly killing a newborn. additionally, there is been information the place a youthful female has been raped yet in her state abortion became unlawful so whilst she gave start, the two her and the toddler died. If aborion became criminal there, then she could have survived.

Answer 10

Boy! I can't tell you how much Christians think I am "unloving" for being opposed to fertility clinics!!

I even had an LCMS pastor get completly upset with me.

The problem IMO is that the created (us) have no business in creating life for that is GOD'S job, not ours.

Many created lives are lost in this process and the church stands silent about it. It is sickning!!!

Answer 11

They aren't picketed because they don't exist simply to kill off embryos. They also have a good cause. They help people have children. Abortion clinics are designed to take away life and fertility clinics (in their core) are designed to help along life...if you know what i mean by that...

Prolife activists *might* picket at some fertility clinics, but not many because they don't see them as essentially life-taking like abortion clinics.