Evolution ...creationism ... or something else?

Question

I totally buy into the concept that evoltion happens. But. How did the first cell that mutated come about? And Creationism does not answer that either - how did the first 'god' come about (come on - this is a physical world). So it MUST be something else. Anyone got any serious clues?

Answer 1

what's the sound of 1 hand clapping?

Answer 2

The only people who make statements about randomly muted cells ending up as people are the scientifically ignorant, who don't know squat about evolution. Most certainly, scientists involved with evolution never say anything like that.



Here we go again with the logical fallacy (flaw in thinking) known as the 'Argument from Incredulity'... "I cannot conceive of how this might have come to be; therefore, God did it."?



Why bogus? Why horseshit? Well, there are several attempts to mathematically demonstrate that the odds against spontaneously generating amino acids, or some other such feature of life, are prohibitively high. ALL of them contain a number of different faulty assumptions, rendering them nonsensical... but ALL of them also contain the SAME fatal flaw, too. That flaw is the presumption that the direction of whatever natural processes are focused on a specific purpose... the fusion of amino acids, for example. This implies intent... and with that specified, then the odds DO in fact become astronomically high. But, in natural processes, there IS NO direction, and there IS NO intent. We could just as well have been made from doozlebongs, joined together into flapdingles... and then, there would be people working out statistical arguments, trying to show that THAT is statistically impossible.

No... the odds against it happening AGAIN may make it statistically impossible... but the odds that it happened ONCE are 100%.

Answer 3

Well, science doesn't look for supernatural explanations when it observes nature.

Supernatural things are not mutually observable, and there's no way to support any claim without mutually observable data, facts, and analysis.

As such, the best science can offer is the theory of evolution. Based on the evidence and information, it's overwhelmingly clear that living things have evolved into their present form, and they continue to evolve at present.

Mostly likely, the first cells were formed via natural process and not by the work of some divine designer.

As for the origin of the universe, it's still pretty up in the air, but I'd say that the universe came into being from a natural process.

Truly, the whole concept of gods, supernatural creation, or intelligent design are part and process of the human imagination.

Answer 4

i'm sorry my friend but I doubt we will EVER know the answer to LIFE!

The more we try to understand how we were created or evolved the more theories we come up with but no really tangible facts to confirm anything. It really is just guess work based upon theories and the few facts we have found out while delving in to the life of the earth.

Did we evolve from a single cell?...possibly

Were we created by mixing alien DNA with another primitive earth life form? (extra terrestrial)...possibly

They are all plausible but to have the earth created by some being within six days....mmm...doubtful!

Answer 5

Well.. How about this>

Dr. James Coppedge, director of the Center for Probability Research in Biology in California

- applied laws of probability of a single cell, protein, and gene coming into existence by chance

- computed a world including the earth’s crust and entire array of elements were available. He then had all the amino acids combine at 1.5 trillion times faster than they do in nature. In computing the probabilities, he found that a cell would take 10,119,841 years, a single protein molecule 10,262 years


R. C. Wysong
“a one-celled bacterium, e. coli, is estimated to contain the equivalent of 100 million pages of Encyclopedia Britannica. Expressed in information in science jargon, this would be the same as 1012 bits of information. In comparison, the total writings from classical Greek Civilization is only 109 bits, and the largest libraries in the world - The British Museum, Oxford Bodleian Library, New York Public Library, Harvard Widenier Library, and the Moscow Lenin Library - have about 10 million volumes or 1012 bits.”


Dr. Sidney Fox, who is the reputed creator of life in a test tube

Said that:

- Newspapers will print anything. What have people like Stanley Miller and Sidney Fox done? They have taken a number of Amino Acids, of which proteins are made and they have exposed them to all sorts of things – to electric sparks, enormous heat – and have succeeded in getting a few (like 12) amino acids to bond together. The smallest living organism must have 400 amino acids bound together to be viable. If that were the only problem, you could say: “Well, they are making progress, and with just a little more effort, they’ll go from 12 to 400.” But that is not the case; there is a greater problem than just that. All amino acids are either left-handed or right-handed, and all protein in living organisms is made of only left-handed molecules. Scientists have no idea why this is so. It’s totally inexplicable – and, of course, this factor raises probabilities of producing proteins by random astronomically. This is further complicated by the process of racemization. This process is nothing more than the randomizing of amino acids to left and right-handed amino acids. For example, if all left-handed amino acids were put together and heated, they would become racemized and the system would result in an equal collection of left-and right-handed amino acids. But you see any biological activity cannot take place if right-handed amino acids are present. All these lab experiments have produced only racemized groups of amino acids And even if these amino acids were combined from here to Pluto, there would still only add up to one long string of dead amino acids that would never exhibit any of the qualities of life. It is absolutely impossible to create life.


Wistar Institute, in 1966

- the leading mathematicians in the century met with some evolutionary biologists and confronted them with the fact that according to mathematical statistics, the probabilities of a cell or a protein molecule coming into existence were nil. They even constructed a model of a large computer and tried to figure out the possibilities of a cell ever happening. The result was zero possibility!

Answer 6

Evolutionists come up with a good argument. But with all theories, that is all it is. I find it difficult to believe that a series of random genetic mutations created a human being from a trilobite, never mind a single cell. Even if the universe had tried for 18 billion years.

Answer 7

Something had to be created for anything to evolve

Any clues you say. Well, feel free to read all the gathering information of a creation, one that evolved over time into what I am saying is the 'visual theory to everything'
The Mayan calendars were for us to predict from, I am saying I have created 'Time' one for us to learn to predict from. The mayans have also been found in my work
My lessons in this work has not finished, more to learn about what I have created but now I am moving onto the next step...
A lot shared relating to this theory, a theory of theories for you to 'see' and read, and maybe get lost in too, but you will find it holds all time, and so much more

Answer 8

I honestly don't think anyone is able to answer your question with any degree of certainty, for who was there at the beginning, if there was any such beginning. Whoever attempts an answer can only give us a clue into the kind of worldview he/she accepts - all pressumption and nothing else. For me, I have enough courage and candour to say: I know not!

Answer 9

It all started when simple amino acids were created in the primordial soup. Lighting strikes provided the energy for the chemical reactions needed. These then developed into proteins through further reactions and then on to DNA..... Kinda like that.

Answer 10

Not sure about God, but I believe the theory goes that a bacteria cell fell off a metiorite and made a soup which eventually the first life forms crawled out of.

Answer 11

I find it hard to believe that a cell could evolve into a more complex cell without the 'intelligent input' it would require to do so. Surely the information would have to be already there or inserted by an outside, intelligent, force?