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A lot of end times writers believe the USA is the whore of Babylon in Revelation. And lately, I'm starting to believe it.

What do you think?

2006-09-05 00:59:26 · 15 answers · asked by Villain 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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ABSOLUTELY!!!! i heard a pastor talking about some prophecies and he said that the American empire is the 4th Anti Christ!
he explained it perfectly from the book of revelations! I'm not a christian but i found the prophecies kinda fascinating!!
the prophecy speaks of 4 empires babylon and roman and i forgot what else and ALL came true at the exact predicted time!!
i think it was daniel that saw the beast coming out of the sea and had 4 heads one head had 10 horns or something like that!! it's been a while since i saw that video.
but it was cool and interesting!!!

2006-09-05 01:02:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

Who knows but it could be if you read the discription of Babylon the Great, with the seaports and huge importers and exporters of merchandise, don't think that Rome meets these qualifications as far as having warm water seaports that are used year round no main seaports right? Something to think about. Humm another interesting factor Babylon New York, ah so many options. Stewart Best has a good video on Babylon the Great, also alot of good books have been written on America in Bible Prophecy. Some interesting views and points to ponder.

2006-09-05 03:45:19 · answer #2 · answered by judy_derr38565 6 · 0 1

No, the whore of Babylon represents a church. Look at women symbolism and marriage symbolism throughout the Bible.

The USA however is represented in Bible prophecy in chapter 13,

as the nation which is lamb like, governed not by a monarchy (king, queen etc - notice no crowns on the horns) but by 2 governing principles - rightly; religious and civil liberty.

Of course it spake as a dragon, it appeared innocent, but it is slowly corrupting. When God spake in exodus, he spake his law. So when the dragon doth spake, he will speak his laws. Watch out for crazy religious laws, you will know the time is near, like laws sanctifying all people worship on a particular day.

2006-09-05 01:06:45 · answer #3 · answered by Sky_blue 4 · 3 1

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2016-10-01 08:15:28 · answer #4 · answered by ehinger 4 · 0 0

I think your question/opinion in the question is close. The beast (I assuming the asker is referencing Rev. 17 & 18) is America's citizens and the whore Babylon is the leadership of America.
Look at the description of the beast.

2006-09-05 02:50:49 · answer #5 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 0 1

They are commiting isogesis, i.e. reading back into the scripture something it does not mean. Revelation 17 is a political criticism of the Roman Empire and its persecution of Christians, not of some future nation of which John had no awareness. Start in Revelation chapter 17:

Revelation 17:1Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, "Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality." 3And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, 5and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." 6 And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered greatly. 7 And the angel said to me, "Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8"The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come. 9"Here is the mind which has wisdom The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits,

Verse 9 is the not so subtle key, telling you that the whore of Babylon sits on seven hills, and everyone in his audience knows that Rome was built on seven hills. Rome was said to have been founded when Romulus and Remus, twin sons of Mars, ended up at the foot of the hill Palatine and founded the city. The other six hills are Capitoline (the seat of government), Quirinal, Viminal, Esquiline, Caelian, and Aventine. By the way, for all you fundamentalists that want to make this critque of the Roman Empire into a slander on the Catholics, Vatican Hill is not one of the seven hills.

Revelation 17 refers to no future country of no relevance to the writers audience, and not to some future religious organization, but to one very much plaguing Christians of the writer's day. Revelation encourages the writer's fellows that despite their present trouble and persecution, Rome will suffer for harming them and Jesus and his chosen will ultimately triumph.

2006-09-05 01:34:49 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The book of Revelation is a prophetic book so we have to use prophetic symbols given by God.

There are 2 women talked about in Revelation, Babylon and the woman dressed in white.


What does a woman symbolize Bible prophecy?

"I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman." Jeremiah 6:2

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her Ephesians 5:25

One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." Revelation 21:9

I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 2Corinthians 11:2

The book of Hosea

From these we see that a woman in prophecy represents a church

And from the Book of Daniel we see that a beast represents a kingdom, nation or power.


So there are 2 women in Revelation and they both represent a church, which churches do they represent?

Obviously since the dragon (Satan) hates the women clothed in light she must be God's Church. And the Revelation 17:4 talks about the other woman it says that she has a "cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:" She obviously must be against God


What are the qualities of the woman of Revelation 17:4?
A. She is guilty of blasphemy (verse 3).
B. She is called the Mother (verse 5).
C. She has harlot daughters who also are fallen (verse 5).
D. She persecuted and martyred the saints (verse 6).
E. She sits upon "seven mountains" (verse 9).
F. She ruled over the "kings of the earth" (verse 18).



Ok so what Church system is Revelation 17 talking about?

"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits." Revelation 17:9

"The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." Revelation 17:18


What city ruled the world during the time the Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation?

Rome.


Is Rome based on 7 hills?

Yes, they are Palatine Capitoline, Quirinal, Viminal, Esquiline, Caelin, and Aventine.


What church is based in Rome?


Is there any more evidence that this church is the Roman Catholic Church?

Let’s look at these one at a time

A)
What is blasphemy?

Elevating yourself to the level of God
John 10:33
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Claiming to for give sins
Luke 5:21
And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

Basically claiming the prerogatives

Has the Catholic Church done this?
The popes have elevated themselves
"We [the popes] hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty."2 Here is another startling statement about the pope: "Thou art another God on earth."
Pope Leo XIII

"The pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National, July 1895

They also claim to be the vicar of Christ (to stand in the place of Christ) it is an official title of the Pope, and they use it when referring to him
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...


Catholic priests claim to forgive sins
Catholic catechism: "Does the Priest truly forgive the sins, or does he only declare that they are remitted? The Priest does really and truly forgive the sins in virtue of the power given to him by Christ."


B) What Church did basically all protestant denominations come out of?

The church of Rome


C) She has Harlot Daughters

see above, many Christian denominations have left the Catholic Church but still hold doctrines that are not biblical, mixing God’s word with false doctrine


D) Persecution of the Saints

in the Inqusition more than 50 million people died during the dark ages (a conservative estimate)


E) What city sits on 7 hills

Rome


F) Rules over the Kings

During the dark ages all kings were subject to the Church in Rome. Even today the UN convenes to listen to the Pope. The Pope was instrumental in ending Communist Russia with Ronald Reagan.


Revelation 14:8 says
A second angel followed and said, "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."

What adulteries can a Church make?
Mixing the truths of the Bible with Pagan worship.


Has the Catholic Church done this?
They tried to change the day of worship to Sunday with no scriptural evidence. They did this because they used to worship the Sun god on that day

“You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day we never sanctify.” - James Cardinal Gibbons

“Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did happened in the first century(actually 200yrs later). The holy day, the Sabbath , was changed from Saturday to Sunday… not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church’s sense of its own power… People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority should logically become Seventh Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.” –Saint Catherine Catholic Church Sentinel, May 21. 1995

They brought idols into the Church. The statue of St. Peter in St. Peter’s basilica is actually older than Peter, it was taken from the temple of Jupiter.

2006-09-05 03:42:49 · answer #7 · answered by Conundrum 4 · 1 0

i think a truer answer would be that america is one of the many heads of the whore of babylon. the ongoing rule of the few who dominate all the world represented in the great beast starting in sumer and including rome and other "great" civilizations

2006-09-05 01:03:56 · answer #8 · answered by quazar1973 3 · 4 1

Isn't Iraq where Babylon used to be? I think it is.

2006-09-05 01:05:58 · answer #9 · answered by Basketcase 4 · 0 2

I am not American (South African) but like a lot of other countries they do some things right and some things wrong. More right will I say than what is going on in the middle east.

2006-09-05 01:05:35 · answer #10 · answered by tolquit 2 · 0 4

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