The best way I heard is this:
Water Vapour and ICE
All three are the EXACT SAME THING... H20... but they are in complete different forms and serve different purposes.
Same as the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Hope that helps a little.... sorry no question.... or maybe I should say, sorry no question??
2006-09-04
17:58:19
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Hey shadow
Jesus is everlasting... he was in the beginning with God, read John 1.
Jesus is the high priest after the order of Melchisedec... Melchisedec did not have mother or father, and is everlasting... who do you think that may have been??
Christ was in the beginning with God, Christ is God..... do you forget who created all things??? It was Jesus Christ!!! Read this:Colossians 1: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
2006-09-04
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St Patrick of Ireland did it best. He used a three leaf clover to symbolize the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are different yet they all come from the same source (the root of the clover itself).
2006-09-04 18:04:26
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answered by economiss 5
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The word "trinity does not appear in the Bible.Nor is it a Bible teaching.The concept of a triune God was fused into apostate Christianity in the fourth century CE.
First century Christians recognized Jesus for who he was and that is the son of God and not God the son.
At Matthew 16:15 Jesus asks his disciples - "You though,who do you say I am?".In response Simon Peter said "You are the Christ,the son of the living God"
Unfortunately religious leaders would have their followers believe that Jesus and Jehovah are one and the same,and inaccurately translate the scriptures to show that as truth,such as John 1:1;10:30
For instance,consider what John writes in chapter 1,verse 18: "No man has seen [Almighty] God at any time."However,humans have seen Jesus,the Son,for John says:"The Word[Jesus]was made flesh,and dwelt among us,and we beheld his glory."(John1:14,KJ).
How,then,could the Son be part of Almighty God?John also states that the Word was "with God".But how can an individual be with someone and at the same time be that person?Moreover,as recorded at John 17:3,Jesus makes a clear distinction between himself and his heavenly Father.He calls his Father "the only true God."And toward the end of his Gospel,John sums up matters by saying:
"These have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God."(John20:31)
Regarding the end of thissystem of things,Matthew quotes Jesus as saying:"Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son,but only the Father."Matthew 24:36.So Jesus here is confirming that the Father knows more than the Son does.If Jesus were part of Almighty God,however,he would know the same facts as his Fahter.So,then,the Son and the Fatrher cannot be equal.Yet,some will say:'Jesus had two natures.Here he speaks as a man'.But even if that were so,what about the holy spirit?If it is part of the same God as the Father,why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?
2006-09-05 01:58:59
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answered by lillie 6
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Currently the topic in my Master's classes. We're reading Thomas Morris' "Our Idea of God". He's got the last chapter on the Trinity.
The main issue is that ppl think 1 person = 3 persons therefore contradition. That's not the case tho. it's 1 God, 3 persons.
It's all a matter of definitions & terms that we usually don't use anymore.. like "nature". What is the "nature" of humanity? of deity? Are they similar, mutually exclusive, or subsets? Likewise, what is "personhood"? What makes up a "person"? Mind? Soul? Body? Spirit? Consiousness?
THOSE are the questions religious philosophers deal with.
2006-09-05 01:05:13
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answered by mark w 1
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Jesus said that before Abraham was I Am. This is the same words used for I Am that God used when He spoke to Moses. This is why the Jews wanted to stone Him. The Jews said that Jesus a man made Himself out to be God. Jesus is also concidered as the Word of God as described in Proverbs and Isiah. Jesus is God even before He was born. The apostle John said that He was God and all things that have been made were made by Him
2006-09-05 01:07:14
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answered by tan t 3
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Here's how the early Church Fathers understood the Trinity.
Tertullian
"Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" ----Against Praxeas 2 ----A.D. 216]----
Gregory the Wonder-worker
"But some treat the Holy Trinity in an awful manner, when they confidently assert that there are not three persons, and introduce (the idea of) a person devoid of subsistence. Wherefore we clear ourselves of Sabellius, who says that the Father and the Son are the same [Person] . . . We forswear this, because we believe that three persons--namely, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit--are declared to possess the one Godhead: for the one divinity showing itself forth according to nature in the Trinity establishes the oneness of the nature" ---A Sectional Confession of Faith 8 ---A.D. 262]---
Athanasius
"They [the Father and the Son] are one, not as one thing now divided into two, but really constituting only one, nor as one thing twice named, so that the same becomes at one time the Father and at another his own Son. This latter is what Sabellius held, and he was judged a heretic. On the contrary, they are two, because the Father is Father and is not his own Son, and the Son is Son and not his own Father" ---Discourses Against the Arians 3:4 ---A.D. 360---
Fulgence of Ruspe
"See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he [Christ] says, `The Father and I, we are one' [John 10:30]. He teaches us that `one' refers to their nature and `we are' to their persons. In like manner it is said, `There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one' [1John 5:7]. Let Sabellius hear 'we are,' let him hear 'three,' and let him believe that there are three Persons" ---The Trinity 4:1 ---A.D. 513]---
2006-09-05 01:59:24
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answered by Romeo 3
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The correct way is God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit.
2006-09-05 01:01:36
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answered by David S 3
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I don't believe in trinity conceptual, here's my explanation (my best way to understand) :
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4)"
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 12:29)"
Notice also how Jesus said "our God", which included him to be under GOD Almighty's creation and Divine Authority, and not someone or an entity that is equal to GOD Almighty.
The Bible's New Testament also records Jesus saying: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good–except God alone." (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"
If Jesus doesn't consider himself as "good", then how can any sane person put him on the same level as GOD Almighty?
Also, another important point to notice in Mark 10:18 is the word "alone": ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good–except God alone." (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"
Jesus in this verse is clearly giving exclusivity to GOD Almighty when he said "alone". If Jesus was truly part of GOD Almighty and/or the trinity lie was true, then Jesus, to say the least, would not have said that.
**Peace**
2006-09-05 01:21:18
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answered by ZinedineVieira 3
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Here is a story about St. Augustine, an early Christian bishop.
Augustine was walking along the beach one day and noticed a young boy making trips to the water to fill his pail. He'd return to a whole he'd dug in the sand and pour the water into the hole. Augusting came up to the boy and asked what he was doing.
"I'm emptying the sea into this hole," he replied.
"Silly child, you'll never be able to do that," said Augustine.
"I will be able to empty the sea into this whole before you will be able to understand the mystery of the Trinity," was the boy's retort.
Case closed.
2006-09-05 01:10:57
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answered by Richard B 7
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We can't understand it... We are limited in understanding and knowledge... God is unlimited in everything... He could exist simultaneously in 40 trillion states if he wanted to... He is unlimited... He is supernatural... He is not limited by our time, space, dimensions or humanness... He can be three things at the same time and he can be all three at the same time while being all three at different times at the same time...
I don't know how else to say it so it is more clear to you... God is a supreme being... He is a god... He has no limits...
We can't comprehend the incomprehensible
2006-09-05 01:00:50
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answered by Anonymous
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BRAVO!
Three persons, one God! Father, Son, Holy Ghost. May theirs be the honor and glory forever and ever!
2006-09-05 01:00:53
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answered by stpolycarp77 6
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