For the christians that dont believe in the trinity: Why dont you (click the link)?

Question

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-proof-texts.htm

CLICK THE LINK. IT SHOWS THAT THE TRINITY IS REAL USING SCRIPTURE. ITS NOT A MIS-TRANSLATION

Answer 1

I BELIEVE

Answer 2

a lot here claiming to be Christians believe in the Trinity yet talk about one body, one person, etc. how can you be christians when you didn't even understand the trinity the way the earlist christians did? that's hypocrisy! that's what you get in interpreting the Bible as if you're knowledgeable and have all the education to be exegists. wake up from your delusion! here's some samples of how the early church taught the Trinity. If you were living in their time you would have been ejected from the church for holding your own distorted definition.

Irenaeus of Lyons
"For the Church, although dispersed throughout the whole world even to the ends of the earth, has received from the Apostles and from their disciples the faith in one God, the Father Almighty . . . and in one Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who became flesh for our salvation; and in the Holy Spirit." (Against Heresies 1:10:1 [A.D. 189]).

Tertullian
"We do indeed believe that there is only one God, but we believe that under this dispensation, or, as we say, oikonomia, there is also a Son of this one only God, his Word, who proceeded from him and through whom all things were made and without whom nothing was made. . . . We believe he was sent down by the Father, in accord with his own promise, the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, the Sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father and the Son, and in the Holy Spirit. . . . this rule of faith has been present since the beginning of the Gospel, before even the earlier heretics" (Against Praxeas 2 [A.D. 216]).

Athanasius
"[The Trinity] is a Trinity not merely in name or in a figurative manner of speaking; rather, it is a Trinity in truth and in actual existence. Just as the Father is he that is, so also his Word is one that is and is God over all. And neither is the Holy Spirit nonexistent but actually exists and has true being. Less than these the Catholic Church does not hold, lest she sink to the level of the Jews of the present time, imitators of Caiaphas, or to the level of Sabellius" (Letters to Serapion 1:28 [A.D. 359]).

Gregory the Wonder-worker
"But some treat the Holy Trinity in an awful manner, when they confidently assert that there are not three persons, and introduce (the idea of) a person devoid of subsistence. Wherefore we clear ourselves of Sabellius, who says that the Father and the Son are the same [Person] . . . We forswear this, because we believe that three persons--namely, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit--are declared to possess the one Godhead: for the one divinity showing itself forth according to nature in the Trinity establishes the oneness of the nature" (A Sectional Confession of Faith 8 [A.D. 262]).

Fulgence of Ruspe
"See, in short you have it that the Father is one, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit another; in person, each is other, but in nature they are not other. In this regard he [Christ] says, `The Father and I, we are one' [John 10:30]. He teaches us that `one' refers to their nature and `we are' to their persons. In like manner it is said, `There are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one' [1John 5:7]. Let Sabellius hear 'we are,' let him hear 'three,' and let him believe that there are three Persons" (The Trinity 4:1 [A.D. 513]).

Answer 3

ALL Those texts can answered from a none trinitarian side.

The author of that site gives no argument as to what the text means and at times misapplies the text and some of the renderings in the Bible he uses go against translation principles.

I can refute ALL those so called proof texts. Maybe you should look at getting a balance view of the subject instead of looking at it from one side. There is always 2 sides to every argument you know.

Answer 4

Sorry my friend: God never spoke in any pagan tongue. In the Hebrew tests of Malachi 3:6 --it is translated: I am God: I change not. God was, is and always will be spirit. God is the sum of all--from His first-fruit sons and daughters to those who choose to sin. All, includes Jesus who died and had two feet, two eyes, two hands and was limited in that he died was spat on according to Psalm 22. The God that I worship--not any pagan Trinidadian counterfeit--is limitless and therefore invisible to the naked eye.
Since anything that manifests has limitations--Jesus has limitations--in that God did not reveal everything to Him-- that is why He said: Mark 13:32 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
Remember that the Romans burned the Library of Alexandria. They burned the Hebrews and early Christians texts and destroyed all the erudite people who were capable of offering enlightenment on such. God gave His oracle powers to Hebrews--through a prophetic trans-generational medium called "The Hebrew Language-"not through a pagan tongue.
Boaz.

In Psalm 51, David described having regained his right spirit. Satan is evil and has evil spirits. So, if God is holy and spirit, whose spirit do you believe the Holy Spirit belongs to?

Answer 5

I do believe in the trinity:

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.

Not a trinity of persons, personalities, or bodies. Not polytheism as you would have me believe. Christianity is monotheism. Check the Bible again and see that a body for the Father or a body for the Holy Spirit is not in there.

Answer 6

A lot of falsehood on that website. I can show you one by one if you are a reasonable person who wants to know the Bible. The truth is the Bible does not support the Trinitarian docrtine. Trinitarians distort the meaning of "echad" or one in the Bible. But Deut 6:4 states  “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one (echad) Jehovah". Notice a singular verb is used "IS". Ecc 4:9 states "Two are better than one(echad)" . Echad only means one, if more than one person is involved, it should have used the plural verb "are" or plural noun "Gods". Notice only singular verb and noun is used in Deut 6:4 (God and IS). So if God is composed of three persons Deut 6:4 should have stated ".. ARE one Jehovah"

Answer 7

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

Answer 8

well there are plenty of reasons, first of all, when jesus was here the bible says that he praid to god, and don't you think it would be pretty stupid to pray to one's self? Also the bible says that god created Jesus, meaning that he was there before jesus was created, but the bible never says that god was created, he has always been there, if a mother gives birth to a child the child could be one with the mother, but it can never be the same person, don't you think so? And then there is the holy spirit, the bible never refers to the holy spirit as a being but as god's mighty power, the bible refers to jesus and god as beings but it is not the case when it is refering to the holy spirit. These are just some of the reasons, if you want more you can email me, there are PLENTY more.

Answer 9

The trinity is just another lie of the Christian religion, why should anyone believe it?

Answer 10

I believe 2.

Answer 11

I don't need to click the link, when I can find the truth right in the Bible itself!