People try to say we cannot deport 30 million illegals, but I say it can be done...what do you think?

Question

Another flimsy argument for "illegals staying where they are not wanted"

We have lots of buses....during the summer, during weekends, and holidays we have tens of thousands of buses which are used by the school systems in each state.

Load up illegals on Saturday morning...drive them to the border of the state which is nearest to mexico...then transfer them to another bus...which will continue the leap-frog travel. From Monday thru Friday, they can stay confined at military bases. Then, Saturday, Sunday and all other days school is not in season...keep 'em movin' on!

Even if you use half the buses in the corral, and service the other buses on alternative weekends, your success rate of transporting illegals will be overwhelming....

Use volunteers of military with armed ICE agents on board for the trip. They (illegals) may eat MRI's...the same as our soldiers eat out in the field....no frills, no luxuries...just solid transportation out of our land.

It is an amazing solution to an ugly problem!

Answer 1

If It Was Up To Me
If It Was MY Decision .....

For Mexican ILLEGAL Aliens -
I Say Pack Em In Coast Guard C-130s
And Fly Them
To The SOUTHERNMOST Point In Mexico
So It Wont Be As Easy To Return

They Will Not Be Dropped Off Just Over The Fence
With A Pat On The Back
And A Hearty " I'll SeeYa Tomorrow Manuel ! " (Labor)
Only To Jump The Fence And Return The Next Day

They'll Have The Whole Country Of Mexico
To Travel Through
Just To Reach Our Border

Thats ALOT Of Travel Time
To THINK
About ILLEGAL Re-Entry Into The USA

And Awareness Of This Practice
Will Provide Many ILLEGAL Aliens
The Opportunity To LEAVE On Their Own

To Prevent Themselves
From Being Sent TOO FAR SOUTH
Of Their Homes In Mexico

OTM ILLEGAL Aliens
Will Be Returned To Their Nations In A Similar Manner

The National Guard And The Coast Guard
Have The EQUIPMENT And The TRAINING
To Effectively Move Large Amounts Of People

Our SOLDIERS
Are Crammed Into C - 130s
To Go Overseas To Do Our Warring
ILLEGAL Aliens
Shouldnt Be Treated Any Better Or Worse

A C-130 Can Carry Far More ILLEGAL ALIENS
Than A Commercial Airliner Or Bus
Therefore We Can MOVE MORE PER TRIP

Set Up (Build) About Twenty (Thirty) Detention Centers
Throughout The USA
One For Every 3 - 4 States (Average) And Then Some
Many Of Them Along The US/Mexico Border

That Will Provide A Constant Military Prensense
At Strategic Locations On The Border

2000 Beds Per Center Will Be Plenty
The Size Of An Average Federal Prison
Guarded And Operated By
Joint National Guard/Coast Guard Officials

Heres v Where mimi's Plan Falls In

As ILLEGAL Aliens Are Discovered In Our Nation
By Local Law Enforcement And ICE
They Will Be Transported By Bus Or Air
By The National Guard Or Coast Guard
Within 48 - 60 Hours
To The Nearest Detention Center
For IMMEDIATE DEPORTATION
To The Point FURTHEST From The USA
In Their Nation Of Origin

As Suggested ^ By mimi In Her Question

Airstrip(s) At The Newly Constructed Detention Centers
Built By CERTIFIED AMERICAN LABOR
Will Ensure Full Time Operation
And MINIMAL Taxpayer Funded Housing For ILLEGAL ALIENS

The Average Stay For A Deportee
In One Of These Centers
Will Be Less Than 48 - 60 Hours

We Will Be Transporting Found ILLEGALS
To The Detention Centers
And Flying Them Out Of The Nation Round The Clock
On Military Cargo Planes

When There Are Enough Detainess To Fill The Plane
The Center Is Emptied
And The Process Begins Again
We Can Move MILLIONS Per Month In This Manner
And The Rate Of Return (Re-Entries)
Will Be All But Halted

Time Of Discovery To Time Of Deportation =
LESS Than 120 Hours (5 Days)

I Think We Should Start Deportation Proceedings
With ALL
FEDERAL Prisoners
State Prisoners
And County Prisoners
That Are ILLEGAL ALIENS

(WE THE PEOPLE Can Play That Castro Game Too)

Using The Number
20 Million ILLEGAL ALIENS To Start
There Will Be LESS THAN
1 Million ILLEGAL ALIENS Within 5 Years

MASS Deportation Will Be A Thing Of The Past
But DEPORTATION
Of ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS Upon Discovery
Will Be Regular Maintenance Of Homeland Security


At That Point,
Mexico Will Be FORCED
To Deal With Her Poverty
As Thousand And Thousands
Of ANGRY, Homeless MEXICAN Ctizens
Are Turned Loose In Mexicos Southwest
After Being Deported From The US Southwest

Same Scenario In OTM Nations

As They Exit The Aircraft, We Will Issue Them
One Brand New Mexican Flag Each
Or WHATEVER Flag
They Want To Wrap Themselves In

So They Can Organize Their Northbound March
And Protest Against US Immigration Laws
Through Mexico
Wrapped Patriotically
In The Flag Of THEIR Nation
Like They Did When Marching And Protesting In Ours


Efficient Military Scheduling
And Efficient Military Operational "TROOP MOVEMENT"
Will Provide Swift, Affordable Deportation
At The Wholesale Cost Of Military Freight

Humane Enough For Our TROOPS
Humane Enough For Our Deportees

Make Deportation A MILITARY OPERATION
And It Will Get Done With Military Precision

The Cost Of 60 - 80 Military Flights
(Fuel And Organization)
Out Of The US Per Day
Is A Nominal Expense
From A Military Standpoint

Simple, Easy, Painless, Cost Effective

This Is Economics 101

Realize
That What Ive Shown Here IS Easily An Option
For Humane, Cost Efficient Repatriaton
Of ILLEGAL ALIENS
To Thier Nation Of Origin

LESS Than 1/2 The PROJECTED Costs
Of COMMERCIAL TRANSPORTATION
(Greyhounds/TWA Etc.)

Cost Of Deportation
Is No Longer An Arguement For Amnesty

WE THE PEOPLE
The TAXPAYERS
CAN AFFORD To DEPORT All ILLEGAL Aliens
To Their Nation Of Origin


For sly (Above)
And Anyone Else
That Uses The COST
Of The Illegal War (In Iraq) As An EXCUSE


See :
Cost 0f 1,891 Mile
Mexican/U.S. Border Fence = 14 Days of Iraq War
Posted by The Watchdog -
August 6th, 2006
VDARE

Below is a sample of homeland security items
in the FY2007 Budget,
their estimated costs,
and the time it takes the Pentagon
to burn through the same amount in Iraq.

* 1,500 new Border Patrol agents:
$459 million ($306,000 per agent)
Iraq spending equivalent: 1.9 days

* Container Security Initiative (CSI)
to pre-screen U.S.-bound cargo
at more than 40 foreign ports:
$139 million
Iraq spending equivalent: 13.9 hours.

* An additional 6,700 Detention Bed Spaces
to replace “catch and release”
with a “catch and return” policy:
$410 million.
Iraq spending equivalent: 1.7 days

* An enhanced Worksite Enforcement program
to “send a strong deterrence message to employers who knowingly hire illegal workers…”:
$41.7 million
Iraq spending equivalent: 4.2 hours

* Border technology
to enhance electronic surveillance:
$100 million
Iraq spending equivalent: 10 hours

* 18 additional Fugitive Operations teams
(raising the total to 70)
dedicated to catching
the estimated 450,000 individuals
who have absconded
following their deportation orders:
$30 million
Iraq spending equivalent: 10 hours

* Completion
of the San Diego Border Infrastructure System,
including multiple fences and patrol roads:
$30 million
Iraq spending equivalent: 3 hours

And now for the grand finale.
Although this last item is NOT the least costly,
it may yield one of the biggest benefits.

After the first 10 miles of border fence was completed,
arrests of illegal immigrants
trying to cross the San Diego border sector plummeted
from about 25,000 per year to 3,000 per year.
But of course the San Diego fence
pushed the illegal influx eastward,
into the (less hospitable) Arizona desert.

A serious commitment to border security
would require fencing off the entire southern border—
all 1,891 miles of it.
(For comparison, we have 40,000 miles of Interstate highways.)

At $1.7 million per mile
(the cost of the first 10 mile stretch in San Diego),
the entire U.S.-Mexican border
(all 1,891 miles of it)
could be sealed off for $3.3 billion dollars.

Iraq spending equivalent: 13.8 days.

Cost/benefit analysis, anyone?

Answer 2

People try to say we cannot deport 30 million HUMAN BEINGS, but I say it can be done...what do you think?
Another flimsy argument for "HUMAN BEINGS staying where they are not wanted"

We have lots of buses....during the summer, during weekends, and holidays we have tens of thousands of buses which are used by the school systems in each state.

Load up HUMAN BEINGS on Saturday morning...drive them to the border of the state which is nearest to mexico...then transfer them to another bus...which will continue the leap-frog travel. From Monday thru Friday, they can stay confined at military bases. Then, Saturday, Sunday and all other days school is not in season...keep 'em movin' on!

Even if you use half the buses in the corral, and service the other buses on alternative weekends, your success rate of transporting HUMAN BEINGS will be overwhelming....

Use volunteers of military with armed ICE agents on board for the trip. They (HUMAN BEINGS) may eat MRI's...the same as our soldiers eat out in the field....no frills, no luxuries...just solid transportation out of our land.

It is an amazing solution to an ugly problem!

Answer 3

It CAN be done and the borders could be secure ( not a big cost if done right).

Deportation could be done in steps. More camps could be set up. Employers could have heavy fines and threat of losing their business license. Cut of all Benefits. Many would leave on their own. We do not OWE them a court trial. The money spent on this would be nothing to what we are paying out yearly. Yes the Military could be used and its trucks as well as Government school buses. We could cut out free education and medical care.

It could be done-will it is another story.

Americans have a lot of patiences but I think it is running out. I do believe that our government will do something soon--as little as they can without revolt.

Your way is not impossible as some may think. Many groups would help.
Again can and will are two different things.

Answer 4

You could do that, but the cost to the economy would be massive. Most people don't go to the US to be on welfare. They work and they spend money. Can you imagine what would happen if that volume of the GNP were to just dry up?

On the other hand, it would keep the courts so busy that all those drug dealers would get off.

That is an amazing solution to an ugly problem.

Answer 5

You are right. It can be done. We just need people who are willing to actually do something without God forbid, being afraid of looking a little un-politically correct. This country can do anything. We have put a man on the moon. We have brought democracy to Iraq. We have almost eradicated communism in some countries. We can take care of this problem in our own damn country! It can be done. These candy a$s politicians are useless but if we could elect the right people in office.....

Answer 6

Load them up and ship them out. There are many troopships that are part of the inactive fleet. They could be refurbished for one more voyage. Unfortunately, the one thing lacking is the will to do so. Of course, even if the government had a backbone, you'd have to overcome the liberals, activists, and bleeding hearts. Every lawyer in the country would want a piece of the action. Of course, we could ship them all out and be the better for it.

Answer 7

I think the number one priority is to secure the border. REALLY SECURE IT!! And then, whatever the cost, get the illegals back where they belong...in their own country! They don't respect America or they wouldn't break a law the minute their first step hits our soil. There are legal ways to get here. Let them try that for a change.

Answer 8

I think it can be done.....we could get thousands of volunteers to drive the bus and rotate to make sure the volunteers are not burned out. Whatever the solution is we need to talk about it now!!!!

Answer 9

put em on a bus, Not!! Wanna stay? help fight for the reason you want to be here. Freedom, making money, a good life. Front lines in war baby! That's where you go if you want to stay!. Mean? no! If it was your own country will you back the U.S? I think not.

Build the wall for 3.2 billion. We will get that back in a week or two on cost of savings on Illegals.

Wanna be an American? PROVE IT!!!!

Answer 10

Go ahead. Tell us how it can be done. Without deporting or arresting anyone that is here legally.

Let's make the blatant assumption that you could find and round up all those people, without also having to deal with at least twice as many who are here legally, but don't know how to respond when police break their down down.

And even assuming it takes 10 minutes per person to determine whether they were legal or illegal, that's 6 per hour, 50 per day, 250 per week, 1000 per month, 10K per year on the average. If we had 1000 judges doing nothing but hearing these cases, that would be 2-4 years just for the people already here.

So, should we start next week?

Answer 11

Sure, lets do that. While youre at it, lets deport EVERYONE who came here illegally, that would only leave Native Americans, and guess who occupied and owned California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada and Colorado before, thats right...Mexicans!! My family has been here for hundreds of years when much of the US was Mexico, and if anybody were to ever violate our rights in any way, or accuse or confuse any of my family members of being undocumented, I would kick that person's ***. By the way, I hope you enjoy growing your own food, cooking your own food at restaurants, painting your own houses, mowing your own lawn, or paying 5 times more for somebody else to do it. Because that's what would happen. Take a drive to skid row. How many homeless Hispanics do you see? That's right. None. They are here to work!!!