There is no such thing as absolute truth?

Question

I define truth as something that is absolutely true. When people say that there is no such thing as absolute truth, and what they say about not being able to know if anything is truth, is true, then how can people make a statement? It's self-contradictory. I don't restrict it to the Bible. I just chose the Bible as a example. You say that it's impossible to know if anything is true. So I guess that means that there is no such thing as science? We know the earth is round because proven scientific testing. There are many things that have been proven to be true through scientific testing in laboratories. And many things have been proven false as well. People say religion is restrictive. In what way? Maybe people who say this just don't like guidelines to live life by. I would consider the belief in evolution as a religion. As far as I understand, religion is just a set of beliefs and morals that one holds to. It can involve deity, or not. It can be the Bible, or the Humanist Manifesto.

Answer 1

No matter what our own opinions may be, anything God says or does constitutes absolute truth.

Answer 2

Well, it is logic and our common sense that leads us to our perception of right or wrong. Well, not in the case of Christianity. lol. That is what morals are. There are and never can be any facts that prove anything right or wrong because it depends on the culture and the society in which one lives in. To many people let their own selfish needs, bias, and uneducated notions create they own moral code. They are guided by a dogmatic belief system which isn't accepting of new experience or findings.

Certain concepts in our world that we are able to comprehend are mathmatics. Most people consider mathmatics a absolute science that cannot be changed. This is higher on the 'fact' chart because it runs universally country to country and isn't based on opinion and instead on consistant proof and analysis. In our reality they are absolute truths.

Which each have our own perception of reality and truth, however, only certain ones run universally and do not fail or become inconsistant in the face of research and testing. If any theory falls short or doesn't manage to be consisitant even once, it will not be considered a fact. In our world there aren't many absolute truths, but one thing that is certainly very far from being an absolute truth is religion.

Answer 3

Science does not offer truth or proof, only certainty. Proof is deductive, requiring only formal rules of logic to hold (given true premises). Science is inductive, using mathemtic analysis to establish links between data and conclusion. But the level of certainty science offers is highly rigorous, so it is reliable.

Religion comes from the latin "to bind back (to ones source)". Ethical injuctions are not required, although common. Usually there is a central doctirne about the "source" of us and/or the universe that leads to practices and/or rituals. Therefore atheism and humanism are neither religious nor unreligious. They are in a seperate, sometimes compatible, category.

As for people asserting the relativity of truth, they are self deceptive. What is relative is each persons grasp of truth. If all truth is relative, one could not decide if anything would ever follow any pattern. One would never even gain a clear sense of self. Such a position is simply contrary to evidence. But so is any theology based on the Bible.

Answer 4

I believe there is absolute truth. But the best that people can do is be honest and open to the possiblities. People really need to find their own truth, which they may then feel is absolute. In turn, there is a strong desire among some people for absolute truth and sometimes to convey that to other people.

People that think everything is subjective cannot be any more sure of that or prove it then can people that believe in an absolute truth. So I guess we are in agreement on that. If absolute truth exists, and if everything is subjective from people's perspective and ability, than we can never know if there is absolute truth, yet we can never be sure there isn't.

Answer 5

Most excellent. Kudos and bravo!
You are wrestling with some of the greatest minds in human history. The closest to this specifically, within Indo-European terms, would be Immanuel Kant in his Critique of Pure Reason. The reasoning is immpecable and the ending phenomenal.
Your struggle reeks of a philosopher. Find his Moral Imperative and over-indulge.

Answer 6

QURAN

[112:001] Say: He is God, the One and Only;

[112:002] God, the Eternal, Absolute;

[112:003] He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

[112:004] And there is none like unto Him.

Answer 7

1. There came one day to Lord Omar, Bull Goose of Limbo, a Messenger of Our Lady who told him of a Sacred Mound wherein was buried an Honest Book.
2. And the Angel of Eris bade of the Lord: Go ye hence and dig the Truth, that ye may come to know it and, knowing it, spread it and, spreading it, wallow in it and, wallowing in it, lie in it and, lying in the Truth, become a Poet of the Word and a Sayer of Sayings -- an Inspiration to all men and a Scribe to the Gods.
3. So Omar went forth to the Sacred Mound, which was to the East of Mullah, and thereupon he worked digging in the sand for five days and five nights, but found no book.
4. At the end of five days and five nights of digging, it came to pass that Omar was exhausted. So he put his shovel to one side and bedded himself down on the sand, using as a pillow a Golden Chest he had uncovered on the first day of his labors.
5. Omar slept.
6. On the fifth day of his sleeping, Lord Omar fell into a Trance, and there came to him in the Trance a Dream, and there came to him in the Dream a Messenger of Our Lady who told him of a Sacred Grove wherein was hidden a Golden Chest.
7. And the Angel of Eris bade of the Lord: Go ye hence and lift the Stash, that ye may come to own it and, owning it, share it and, sharing it, love in it and, loving in it, dwell in it and, dwelling in the Stash, become a Poet of the Word and a Sayer of Sayings - an Inspiration to all men and a Scribe to the Gods.
8. But Omar lamented, saying unto the Angel : What is this ****, man? What care I for the Word and Sayings? What care I for the Inspiration of all men? Wherein does it profit a man to be a Scribe to the Gods when the Scribes of the Governments do nothing, yet are paid better wages?
9. And, lo, the Angel waxed in anger and Omar was stricken to the Ground by an Invisible Hand and did not arise for five days and five nights.
10. And it came to pass that on the fifth night he dreampt, and in his Dream he had a Vision, and in this Vision there came unto him a Messenger of Our Lady who entrusted to him a Rigoletto cigar box containing many filing cards, some of them in packs with rubber bands around, and upon these cards were sometimes written verses, while upon others nothing was written.
11. Thereupon the Angel Commanded to Lord: Take ye this Honest Book of Truth to thine bosom and cherish it. Carry it forth into The Land and Lay it before Kings of Nations and Collectors of Garbage. Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their ways and repent.

HBT, Book of Explanations, Chapter One.

That's where truth comes from.

Answer 8

I normally find that there are 3 sides to every story my side there side and the truth that will never be told

Answer 9

God is absolute truth!

Answer 10

i agree