I've been saying the same thing for years.
2006-09-03 18:52:09
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answered by p2of9 4
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You are incorrect - where do you get your information from? The bible says the no man understands what he speaks in tongues. (I Corinthians 14:2 "For he that speaketh in an tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries") On the day of Pentecost there were those who understood what the men were speaking - but that isn't guaranteed every time.
The bible says: I would that you all spake with tongues... (I Corinthians 14:5)
I thank my God that I speak in tongues more than you all...I Corinthians 14:18
Forbid not to speak with tongues - I Corinthians 14:39
Where does it saw unbelieving Jews in 1 Corinthians? It doesn't. It is talking about unbelievers.
People have the free choice to go against what God's word says and have hundreds of people "all stand up all at the one time and babble in some ecstatic jibberish which is unknown to be any language on earth". God does direct 2 or at most 3 to do this in a fellowship.
2006-09-03 18:56:39
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answered by stybaj 2
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I for one have received the Gift of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of SPEAKING IN TONGUES. It has absolutely nothing to do with unbelieving Jews so get off it.
You are correct that some abuse this GIFT by acting like they have received when they truly have not, and then there are people like you who think it has ceased with no Biblical evidence of such a ceasing.
You are also correct that there are certain constraints on its use such as limited to three per meeting and must be interpreted, otherwise it was a message for personal edification and not for the edification of the congregation.
I as Paul pray without ceasing, and a lot of this prayer is in tongues as the devil cannot understand it but God gave the gift and it is your spirit praying to Him when you cannot think of the words to say.
I feel sorry for you and your weak spiritual life if you do not believe in this gift.
2006-09-03 19:07:26
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answered by Anonymous
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This is not true. There were GENTILE FAMILIES in scripture that received the Holy Ghost talking in tongues in THEIR HOUSE, and the only Jews present were the 2 Jews that were talking unto them. Paul was a believing Jew. He did not have to be spoken in tongues to. He was one of the speakers in the HOUSE that converted the Gentiles in the FIRST PLACE!
I received the Holy Ghost talking with other tongues over 20 years ago, and I am 40. I talk in tongues nearly every time I pray during my devotional time, and their are not unbelieving Jews in my House. My whole household has.
If you do not believe me, it does not make any difference.
2006-09-03 18:57:05
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answered by NC_Pianist 4
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I have no theory what your quote says however the coaching with regard to the modern-day of tongues is to remind the those that each and one and all presents are for the earnings and non secular edification of mankind. as a result, if no interpretation is latest, then shop silent because of the fact it reward no person. the objective of the present is so as that individuals of diverse tongues can communicate with regard to the failings of God with out the will for an interpreter. as a effect, one might communicate in English and the different in Greek, yet they understand one yet another. Or extremely, one might communicate in Greek so as that the Greek might understand him even nonetheless the 1st is unskilled in speaking Greek. the faster occasion could be the present of interpretation of tongues. I even have heard of the two presents being experienced. on the day of Pentecost, the disciples spoke to the multitudes of their very own tongues and the gang marveled that those unlearned adult males have been able to coach them of their very own language. some accused them of being drunk and that became disputed dur to the early hour of the day. Others reported they have been mad, however the reality remained that the gang lined human beings from many lands and languages and yet all of them heard the classes of their very own tongues. We notice that the present became understood. The message became helpful to the listener. as a effect, Paul taught that except there is earnings being shared, an interpreter, then the present is ineffective and should not be displayed. that's extra helpful to maintain silent than to unfold confusion.
2016-11-06 09:25:09
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answered by ? 4
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you are wrong....I speak in tongues...I have received the baptism of the Holy Spirit and it is real and still available for today.....your teaching is wrong.....you should really watch what you say about the workings of the Holy Spirit...because it truly is for all of Gods children........and I have never been in a meeting where hundreds get up and all speak in tongues as you say,,,....I get amused by all those who like to say it is for this and that and haven't a clue at to the truth.......it is real whether you or anyone else believes it or not......
The Baptism in the Holy Spirit is a vital experience of the Christian life. It is a special work of the Spirit beyond salvation. On the Day of Pentecost, disciples who had already made a decision to follow Jesus "were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues" (Acts 2:4). Paul asked the Ephesians disciples if they had received the Holy Spirit, after which "the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues" (Acts 19:2). New Testament believers were constantly challenged to be filled with the Spirit (Acts 1:4,5; Ephesians 5:18).
Though many non-Pentecostals teach a baptism in the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues.....Fundamental Truths: "The baptism of believers in the Holy Spirit is witnessed by the initial sign of speaking with other tongues as the Spirit of God gives them utterance (Acts 2:4)." The evidence always occurred (and still does today) at the time believers were baptized in the Spirit, not at some indeterminate future time.
Speaking in tongues is the only phenomenon mentioned every time Scripture supplies details concerning the Baptism experience. Of the five instances in Acts which recount the experience of believers being baptized in the Spirit, three supply details. Speaking in tongues is the only one that occurs each time (Acts 2, 10, 19). In the Acts 10 account, tongues is specifically mentioned as proof that "the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues" (Acts 10:45, 46). The relationship between the phenomenon and the experience cannot be ignored.
In the two cases where details are not supplied, circumstances strongly imply that speaking with other tongues accompanied the experience. In Acts 8 Simon saw something (most likely tongues) that prompted him to offer money for the power to impart such a gift. In Acts 9 Saul (who became Paul) is filled with the Spirit without the mention of any details. However, Paul later testified, "I speak in tongues more than all of you" (1 Corinthians 14:18). It is logical to conclude that he began speaking in tongues when he was baptized in the Holy Spirit.
the baptism in the Holy Spirit with the initial physical evidence of speaking in other tongues is the promise of the Father to every Christian who desires the experience.
Pentecostals have a legitimate concern about those who oppose the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Opponents claim narrative portions of the Bible, like the Book of Acts, are not sufficient support for tongues as the initial evidence of the Baptism. But if critics can pick and choose the portions of Scripture to be given divine authenticity and authority, who then determines which portions are most meaningful? Certainly we must take to heart the words of Paul to Timothy, "All scripture is God breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16).
We also have a concern that some Pentecostals look on the Baptism and tongues as ends in themselves rather than as means to a much greater end. The Baptism is the entry experience introducing the believer to the beauty and power of the Spirit-filled life.
we believe the Spirit is at work in all Christians, whether they have been baptized in the Spirit or not. God can also use and does use Christians who for one reason or another have not received the Baptism experience. We must never depreciate their ministry. Yet we recognize the baptism in the Holy Spirit will make one’s life and ministry even more effective.
So for every believer the command is sounded, "Be filled [Keep on being filled] with the Spirit" (Ephesians 5:18).
2006-09-03 18:57:06
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answered by shiningon 6
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PEOPLE today do speak tongues, they don't know what they are saying, it's your soul speaking to god, personal thing, So by rights, that's all you should use it for..... unless you have an interpreter of tongues, that another gift, there isn't as many, the interpreter speak for the one with the tongues to the church, or a message to the church from God.
2006-09-03 19:00:55
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answered by inteleyes 7
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If you read it was directed to the church in Corinth( NOT A ONLY JEWISH CHURCH) It is true that some people abuse it and even lie about having it.Paul taught all about that and rebuked the church in 1 Corinthians 13. If these people don't acknowledge the Bible then God will deal with them.Although also Paul says not to do away with speaking in tongues , just to be sure to have someone present that can interpret or not do it in public at all.
2006-09-03 18:59:58
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answered by Mr Toooo Sexy 6
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um.. i don't really understand your question but 3 of my friends can speak in toungues. and i think its a wonderful testimony to god as when unbelievers see you filled with the holy spirit, they might be touched by the presence of god and convert
2006-09-03 21:32:21
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answered by angel 1
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I try not to judge any group of people like this, because their hearts and minds and spirits are in the right place- and who am I to doubt that God isnt with them, or they are filled with the spirit? I am not God- I have no way to know. I could be doubtful in my mind, based on my own personal beliefs of the spirit... but I think caution should be excercised in criticism of such things, because ultimately only God knows, and I would not want to criticize his workings.
2006-09-03 18:52:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Read your bible it does speak of true people of u.ndying faith speaking in tongues.
2006-09-03 18:51:32
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answered by rahlyd swamp muffin 4
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