If the old testament prophets were that good, how come they failed to mention a cross, an execution or Jesus?

Question

The only one of them to even mention a messiah was Daniel, who, on his own admission, did not understand his own visions (Dan 8: 27)

I'm sorry, miss answers, but you are making all that up. Isaiah doesn't mention a messiah at all. It does mention a birth to a virgin, but he is named Immanuel, not Jesus. Either that prophecy didn;t happen, or hasn't happened yet. Maybe you should read the book again

Sorry, skypiercer, not mention of a cross or Jesus in Isa 53 or Psa 22 either. Are you sure tou're not reading into these texts things that are just not there?

Are you all there, your LRDship?

Keep trying, I'll keep looking them up as long as you keep giving them to me.

Sorry, Jesus was most definitely not known as Immanuel. There is no occurrence of the name in the whole bible apart from Isaiah

Answer 1

actually, there are very many messianic prophecies in the old testament. the reason that they dont mention a cross, an execution, or jesus was because jesus was not the jewish messiah, obviously. that would be like the bible prophecying ME. jesus did not even come close to filling ANY of the prophecies the bible mentions the messiah will do. not a single one.

Answer 2

The prophecies said that the Messiah would:
Be born of a woman (Gen 3:15)
Be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14)
Be the son of God (Psalm 2:7)
Be descended from Abraham (Gen. 22:18), Isaac (Gen. 21:12), Jacob (Num. 24:17), tribe of Judah (Gen. 49:10), family of Jesse (Isaiah 11:1), house of David (Jer. 23:5)
Be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2)
Be Presented with gifts (Psalm 72:10)
Be threatened by Herod (Jer. 31:15)
Be God and man (Isaiah 7:14)
Be a Prophet (Deut. 18:18) a Priest (Psalm 110:4) a Judge (Isaiah 33:22), and a King (Psalm 2:6)
Be preceded by a messenger (Malachi 3:1)
Teach first in Galilee (Isaiah 9:1)
Perform miracles (Isaiah 35:5,6)

Notice most of these prophecies detail events which are outside of a person's control. If the prophecy said "His name will be Jesus and he will be executed on a cross," then someone would come along claiming to be Jesus and stage his own execution on a cross. Prophecies like that open the door for too many loonies to confuse people.

Answer 3

Why are you making your statement in JUDGMENTAL text? "If the old testament prophets were that good, how come they failed to mention a cross, an execution or Jesus."

It's all mentioned, but it takes WISDOM to understand what you're reading. Read Proverbs to obtain wisdom and pray and ask to be blessed with some. Stop being so disrespectful towards the Prophets.

What have you Prophesied about lately?

Are you just waking up or something? Have you read the Bible at all?
Do your research and read the Bible, thoroughly, before making statements like this.... People are laughing at you.

Your statement is not cute but appalling.

I don't have to repeat the answers that's been given you...read your answers and they will give you references exactly where to read in the Bible.

Frankly, I don't believe someone would make that statement you made without first researching to make sure that they knew what they were talking about.

It's perfectly clear that you haven't read it.

I hope you haven't said this out loud to anyone.

Answer 4

Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong about that. The Old Testament is full of prophecies about Christ, about the Cross and many of the things related to the Christian Church which was to come as a fulfillment of the words of one of the prophecies: "I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh" (prophesying the advent of the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, and the birth of the Church).

One would have to write a book to cite all of the examples, but here are just a couple from the early books of the Old Testament.

When Israel fought the Amelkites, they would win whenever Moses lifted up his arms, and lose whenever he lowered them, so that men stood on either side of Moses to hold up his arms constantly. What did his arms raised have to do with anything? They were raised in the form of the Cross.

When Israel was crossing the desert, they came to the place called Mara where the water was bitter. Moses threw in a piece of wood into the water and it was made sweet. The wood thrown into the water is a prophetic image of the Cross of Christ.

When the Israelites were bitten by serpents in the wilderness, Moses held up a pole with a bronze snake hung upon it, which would heal the Israelites when they looked upon it - a prophetic image of Christ on the Cross.

There are so many - literally thousands of images, prophecies, types, pre-figurements, etc. that it is impossible to go through them all. This is why it is important to have the mind of the Church, which is the mind of Christ, in reading the Bible, so that you can understand what is being said. As the Ethiopian eunuch said to the Apostle Philip when he asked him if he understood what he was reading in the book of Psalms: "How can I understand if I have no one to explain it to me?"

Answer 5

You need to research this better, buddy... Jesus is written about all through the old testament. For instance, read psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 for starters. Jesus is in every book of the old testament all the way from Genesis, believe it or not, where it is prophesied that the seed of woman would crush the head of the serpent. I wish you well, for it seems that you are at least questioning.

Answer 6

Undeniably, the most specific prophecy of Jesus' first coming is Isaiah 52:13-53:12. This passage, the fourth of Isaiah's "servant songs," describes the "mournful Messiah" who died for the sins of others in a vicarious, substitutionary atonement. Notice Isaiah 53:4-5, 10, 11:

"Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried; yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But He was pierced through for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the chastening for our well-being fell upon Him . . . But the Eternal was pleased to crush Him, putting Him to grief; if He would render Himself as a guilt offering. . . . My Servant, will justify the many, as He will bear their iniquities."

Notice that the Servant does not just suffer because of others directly attacking or injuring Him (v. 7), but He takes on their sins and bears them in their place. Just as an animal sacrificed in a guilt offering bore symbolically the sin of the individual human in question, although it (the animal) had done nothing wrong, so does the Suffering Servant, who (v. 8)

The Old Testament clearly prophesies of a "mournful messiah"--predictions fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth in the first century A.D. We must not let the Old Testament images of the Conquering Messiah who ushers in utopia blind us to how the Messiah also came to die for humanity's sins. The Messianic prophecies simply were not going to be fulfilled all at once, since this would involve manifest contradictions. Scripture portrays the Messiah in two very different ways, as both exalted and humble. In the Talmud (Sanhedrin 98a), one rabbi attempted to explain how the Messiah would appear in the clouds of heaven (Dan. 7:13) yet also be "poor and riding upon a donkey" (Zech. 9:9). He said if Israel was worthy, it would be the former, but if unworthy, the latter! Hence, early in Jesus' ministry, He quoted from Isaiah 61:1-2 (in Luke 4:18-19), but suddenly stopped quoting Isaiah where it would not be fulfilled until the second coming (v. 2): "the day of vengeance of our God." May we not emphasize the Conquering Messiah so much that we forget the Mournful Messiah who died for our sins!

Answer 7

Jesus Christ's Life and Death in Prophecy

Many are vaguely aware that Jesus Christ's birth, life and death were prophesied in the Hebrew Scriptures, the Old Testament. But few are aware of the sheer number of predictions and the astonishingly precise details foretold up to thousands of years in advance. These predictions are a powerful confirmation of the accuracy of Bible prophecy.

The Jewish New Testament lists 52 prophecies fulfilled in Christ's birth, life and death as stated in 81 passages in the Old Testament (pp. xxv-xxix). In many ways the Old Testament pointed forward to Christ's first and second comings. All the Messianic Prophecies of the Bible discusses not only hundreds of specific prophecies, but many events, people, rituals and sacrifices recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures that foreshadowed the life, death, ministry and return of Jesus Christ (Herbert Lockyer, 1973).

What were some of the prophecies Jesus fulfilled? Let's notice a few:

• He would be a descendant of King David (Isaiah 11:1-5; Matthew 1:1, 6).

• He would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:1).

• One would precede Him who would announce His coming (Isaiah 40:3, 5; Malachi 3:1; Matthew 3:1-3).

• His own people would reject Him (Isaiah 53:3; John 1:11).

• A friend would betray Him (Psalm 41:9; John 13:18-30).

• The price for His betrayal would be 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; Matthew 26:15).

• The 30 pieces of silver would buy a potter's field (Zechariah 11:13; Matthew 27:3-10).

• Wicked people would pierce His hands and feet (Psalm 22:16; Luke 23:33; 24:38-40).

• He would suffer execution but without the breaking of any of His bones (Psalm 34:20; John 19:33-36).

• Others would cast lots for His garments (Psalm 22:18; John 19:23-24).

• He would be buried with the wealthy (Isaiah 53:9; Matthew 27:57-60).

• God would resurrect Him from the grave (Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:30-32).

Jesus Himself could not have controlled how these prophecies were fulfilled. No one can control the circumstances of His own birth, who his ancestors are and where he is born. Nor could He control the actions of others in betraying Him, putting Him to death and laying His body in the unused tomb of a wealthy man. Yet the prophets had written these remarkable details in advance up to 1,000 years earlier. King David predicted even details of Christ's death by crucifixion hundreds of years before the practice of crucifixion became common as a method of execution.

The four Gospels abound with accounts of how many Messianic prophecies were fulfilled, but Christ's closest followers didn't recognize their fulfillment at the time. Only in hindsight were they able to recognize many specific prophecies recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures and how they had been fulfilled.

Many prophecies regarding Jesus Christ are yet to be fulfilled. The Encyclopedia of Biblical Prophecy lists more than 200 prophecies of the Messiah, most of which are yet to come to pass (Barton Payne, 1996, pp. 665-670). Just as the many precise details of Christ's birth, life, death and resurrection came to pass exactly as foretold, so will the many prophecies that relate to His second coming be fulfilled exactly as spelled out in God's Word.

Answer 8

The Name of Yahweh’s (the Creator's true Name) Son, Yahshua
(Yahweh is Salvation), has been substituted by Yeshua,
Iesous, Iesus, Jesus, and Ea-Zeus (healing Zeus).
Webster’s Dictionary says that Zeus is the sky God, and
is also known as Deus (Latin), Dio (Italian), Dios
(Spanish), Dayus (Sanscript), and Zeus Soter, meaning
Zeus the Savior.
The substitution of the Names of Yahweh and
Yahshua, with the names of pagan gods, has brought
immeasurable harm. Such names as Lord, God, Jesus
and Christ in no way represent the meaning of the
Name revealed by Yahweh our Heavenly Father. The letter "J" didn't even exist as a letter until about the sixteenth century. For more information see my source site and it's links.

Answer 9

I'm sorry that you are that unfamiliar with the Bible (or at least the Old Testament.) There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of easy-reading starter books that list the number of prophesies or historical events that in one way or another foreshadow the crucifixion (sacrificial death) of Jesus. If you go to a Christian bookstore (a physical bldg. or on the web) you should have no problem choosing one. After reading it, I'll look forward to your next question . . .

Answer 10

Because they did not consider that Jesus was the messiah. He was only a minor prophet and not worth any mention. He would have been less than a footnote in history unless Paul of Tarsus hadn't decided to spread the gospel. That was years after the Crucifixion. Crucifixion was a common method of execution by the Romans. The roads to Rome were lined with crosses with the dead on them.

Answer 11

Puh-leeze...! Read Psalm 22 - it sounds like a play-by-play of the crucifixion scene... Plenty of Isaiah, a host of others... Dude...? Even a cursory glance at a Christian reference could show you just so many of the Old Testament prophesies Jesus fulfilled...