How did God come into being?

Question

I have heard arguments arguing in favor of creationism that ask, "If God didn't create the universe, how did all matter come into existance? After all, the Big Bang allegedly started with already-existant matter concentrated into a small space before an explosion."

I want to hear responses to the reverse question: If God created the universe, who created God and where did he come from?

Sorry to sound cynical, but isn't saying that God is not bound by time just saying, "This idea makes no logical sense, so I'll just say that God is unaffected by anything I don't understand."

Answer 1

That is probably one of the greatest theological questions I've heard.

You can't just say his infinite, cause then you have to ask what he's been doing for the rest of infinity, did he just create us on a whim or maybe a drunken bet to another all powerful being somewhere.

Personally, I think that god and all other gods for all religions, if they exist, they exist as beings normative of their kind on another realm of existence beyond our direct perception and that they perhaps evolved from something else, or maybe view time and creation in completely different way than we do because they can see so much more.

In essence you need to have faith that the big invisible man or woman upstairs knows his or her beginnings better than we know ours. We really don't need a god who believes an invisible man who lives in the clouds created him.

Answer 2

That's a good question and one that I have brought up when I am talking with young earth creationist when they make the proposition, where did the earth come from. I usually respond with is question, asking where God came from.

I honestly think that both questions are unanswerable. Where did God come from, if he did indeed create the universe? I don't know. Where did the matter come from if he didn't create the universe? I don't know that either.

Anytime that infinity to involved in an equation, the answer is almost always infinity. Where did God come from? If I assume God is infinite, then God's origin is God himself. He is what he is a priori. The same holds true if matter has always existed. Matter is what it is a priori.

One thing I think that the Theist worldview has over the naturalistic worldview is that the physical world was begat by the metaphysical world. In other words, that which is bound by nature came from that which is outside nature. This seems to have a lot more explanatory power than random chance and cosmic accidents.

Answer 3

That which has a beginning and an end must have a creator, that which is eternal does not. I believe that because energies that consist of everthing and anything possible have alway and will always be in existence, that God is the manifestation of that in some way. Time as we know it was created along with the earth. Before the earth there was no concept of time. We can not think beyond these confines because we are just human.

So there's the difference, for me at least. There is no scientifical explanation for where the matter from before the big bang came from, but there is an explanation of sorts for God (if you choose to believe it, which not everyone has to. It's up to each person, and no one belief is right or wrong, in my opinion) and if you didn't believe in God before, then this is in no way going to convince you, as much as any arguement thrown my way is not going to convince me that there is no God. Once again, all down to personal opinion, as it should be.

Answer 4

Both questions require no answer, as there is no logical requirement for something that exists to have a beginning. It can easily be that the universe, God, and any other theoretical existence could simply have always existed, just as they will always exist.

This is evident in the fact that, to our knowledge, matter/energy can never be destroyed, nor created, but rather mutated.

We cannot determine absolute destruction, nor absolute creation, thus we can only assume neither exists.

Answer 5

Nobody could ever hope to answer that in our lifetime here on earth but I have often wondered myself.

Now youre going to get 500 people saying "HES THE ALPHA AND OMEGA DUUHHHH." God says he is the beginning and end (of us) not himself.

Obviously if you consider everything that exists had a beginning, was caused, and had design IE: a designer, then God is no different. Your only other option is to believe that God himself evolved like Mormons believe. But that still wouldnt explain the root of all things? If you follow the line of thinking it leads to logical contradictions because the root of all things had to have been created itself.

There must be more truth to the Heavenly realms where God dwells where our reasoning and linear sense of time and physics cant penetrate or understand. Hey but if you follow God, you will get to ask him one day!!!!!!! Goto hell and you may never know!

Answer 6

My theory is He didn't. He always has been. (I know, I know. Now stretch your mind a little further... a little further...)

He also created TIME. We are so trapped by time we think of it as more of an undefiable (is that a word?) law than gravity or anything else, but GOD created time. He isn't constrained by it: He is outside of it. Wrap your mind around that.

Therefore, He did not "come into being." He ALWAYS is.


Additional, in ref. to your addition: No, I don't think this is a cop-out, to say God isn't bound by time because I don't understand it. As Christians, that is how we believe our God is. All-powerful, and all-wise. He created everything, even things we are used to seeing as simple laws of nature like gravity and such. Gravity was no accident for God. Neither was time. You can't imagine a universe without time ticking, because our brains just won't stretch to see that. But verbally, we can describe it, and perhaps begin to imagine it. To me, this doesn't feel like grasping at all (and I feel when I'm grasping). This is how powerful my God is. Bigger than time, not the other way around.

Answer 7

No one created God, and He did not "come from" anywhere. He IS and always has been and always will be. He is the only true Being, in the sense that He has life in and of Himself, and His life is not caused by anything nor is it dependent on anything, whereas every created thing is dependent on His will to create it and to sustain it.

God is outside of time, space and existence, transcending all those things and every concept of anything created.

Once you understand this, you can being to open your mind and heart and understand many more things about God's creation and its meaning and purpose, etc.

Answer 8

How did u or the first man come into being? God came from triple darkness. He created himself. If you don't believe that , then you can't even believe the big bang theory, because who or what created this so called "already existing matter" for your big bang theory? Itself?...then God created himself. He is like engergy that never dies(energy always exists), but can transform and create. Therfore this formless, timeless, entity (God) created 1#. Himself, then separed #2) light from #3) dark, (let there be light!) Hence He came from Triple darkness! And He created everything, their for everything is created in his image, not just man, even time, even numbers! But man is favored by him because he gave us a brain to choose to believe and love him or not. Believers believe that when you die, your body goes to dust but your spirit (energy) moves on. (That new thing that they are teaching in school whatever it's called doesn't explain the begining either.)

Answer 9

there grew to become into an atheist and a muslim who have been to talk to a minimum of one yet another, and the muslim had to substantiate that there grew to become right into a god. So on the day of their assembly, the muslim occurs to stay farther faraway from the assembly place. The atheist had to attend patiently, and gotten indignant while the muslim confirmed up very overdue on the time. The muslim have been given to the assembly, and apologised for him being overdue. His excuse grew to become into that there grew to become right into a river that seperated him from the assembly abode. there have been no boats to take him, and as he waited, he considered that a tree has decrease out its self and fell into the river, and because it fell on the banks of the river, it decrease itself into smaller peices, and shaped a boat for him to take and get suitable right here. The Atheist grew to become into unimaginably corrupted after listening to this, he reported that this could be a valueless excuse and a stupid one certainly, using fact there's no way a tree could desire to diminish out itself and make itself right into a boat. Then The Muslim mentioned : it is precisely the way you at the instant are not beliving in a author. you're saying that the universe has only been made, yet once you for sure belive that, then you certainly could belive the tree being decrease via itself. The atheist grew to become into astounded, and couldnt utter a observe. For he knew that there could desire to have been a author to make and create this universe we live in. He then mentioned to the Muslim: you have proved your factor, and you gained the communicate. Ashahuda Ana l. a. ilaha illa allah wa ashahuda ana muhamed rasul allah.

Answer 10

God lives outside of time, so it doesn't really make any sense to ask who created God. God created time and he's not limited by time like you and I are. He is a timeless being who has always existed. I know it's hard for our finite minds to grasp this concept, but it does make sense to me.