What logical proof do we have for the (non) existence of a god?

Question

I don't want bible verses or "u goes to hell u evil" or anything, i want serious logic.

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notice how "non" is in parenthesis. you can give your side of the argument.

Wow... I see that I'm actually getting thoughtful answers from Christains. I seriously expectred some fundie idiot to come in and mouth off about how I will surely go to hell and shove sh!t down my throat... but I'm getting thoughtful, well-written answers.

Whoops... I forgot. I have three borderline fundy idiots whose answers toatlly sucked...

Greg, here's my reasoning against your claims. The bible says there was an ancient civilization in Egypt. I can think ot three obvious non-biblical proofs for it's existence: the pyramids at Giza. the bible is a way of explaining natural disasters and the like, just like every other religion in the world: with the mention of a big, powerful man who lives in the sky and shoots random lightning bolts and things at people.

Gee, Sherman, haven't you ever heard of editing?

Answer 1

There is no logical proof. That's why it is called faith.

Answer 2

"Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time." ~ Bertrand Russell, "Is There a God?" commissioned by, but never published in, Illustrated Magazine (1952: repr. The Collected Papers of Bertrand Russell, Volume 11: Last Philosophical Testament, 1943-68, ed. John G. Slater and Peter Köllner (London: Routledge, 1997), pp. 543-48, quoted from S. T. Joshi, Atheism: A Reader

"We are all 'teapot atheists'... I just happen to believe in one fewer teapots than you do." ~ Richard Dawkins, commenting on Bertrand Russell's 'teapot' vignette

Answer 3

Go outside at night and look at the stars. And how huge and incomprehensible the universe is. Think about the human eye and how marvelously it's constructed. Think about how the organs in the human body depend on other organs. How could they just "evolve" together, completely independent, yet so interconnected?

Now think of what happens when people don't believe in God. Just a bunch of carbon life-forms are we. How easy it is to kill your own countrymen if you're a leader that believes that. How difficult it would be to rush into a burning building to save people if there were no God.

Now, have I proven His existence to you? Eh, maybe not, but I for one would rather give Him the benefit of the doubt. There's a collection of books written through the ages that gives us some insight, why would the writers want to lie? This God who wants a relationship with His own? Wow. Take advantage of it, my friend.

Answer 4

God is asserted to exist.
There is no evidence at all.
The canonical documents (bible, et al) are full of contradictions about 'god', so any god they describe cannot exist.
Given there is zero evidence or suportable argument for the existence of any god, the "argument for god" has no less, and no more, standing or usefulness than any claim having no evidence.

I can, for example, assert the sky is made of blue chocolate (space probes haven't reached it yet, so nyah nyah to science). If you don't believe this, then for exactly the same reasons you don't believe this, you cannot claim 'god' is any more or less fanciful.

Not "formal" proof, but we don't live in equations (or so I assert in the negative).

Answer 5

Faith healers for one. I find it an incredible coincidence that when a faith healer lays his hands on a little girl and a tumor just suddenly goes away. Or she can see again, or hear again.
But logically, why do some historians admit that the bible is historically accurate, but refuse to admit that is religiously accurate? We can prove dozens of stories in the bible so it is historically accurate, but why can't the stories of god be true? Isn't it illogical to think that all of these cities and battles happened but the prophets who recorded all this were insane, or wrong? All these stories are historically true but as soon as you jump to the religious side it's suddenly false?

Answer 6

The same I suppose as the non existence of Zeus, Apollo, Hercules, and all the other mythological deities throughout history.

Answer 7

My proof that god exists is the bible. The bible was written over hundreds of years by 40 different people and yet the bible does NOT contridict itself once. That's amazing cuz people now cant even do that with our technology and the bible was written over a thousand years ago!! So there is proof of Gods existence.

Answer 8

I'm not sure that you can logically prove that something DOESN'T exist.

In order to be able to do that you would have to go everywhere in all levels of existence. You can't do that.

Answer 9

Thats why they are not facts. They are beliefs and theories people have.

Its up to the individual to decide for her/himselfs. Religions is up to the person. None of it is based on fact.

Answer 10

God does exist, and He show his present each and every day in our lives...When we wake up every morning it were not because of us,but it is His will....No other gods could do that...When we go through our (trials and tribulation) and don't know where to turn to or what to do, but somehow we make it through, (that's God) Everything is in God plans for our lives...So my answer is if someone don't know or believe there is but 1 God and that he lives in each and every one of us they need to get down on their knees and pray and give their lives to God (Repent)

Answer 11

It goes mostly by what you believe and have faith in. Belief and Faith occassionally defy logic, but aren't always wrong in the sense of the term.